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  • #16
    Mike. thank for the quick reply, what I am asking is the software that to be install on the Window 7 or 10 laptop to program and monitor the combox. also is the Ethernet cable I suppose to use to connect to the internet or there are WI-FI available?

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    • #17
      The combox is controlled by a browser, any OS works, I use my android phone and Win8.1 laptop

      If you've not bought it yet, consider looking at the new Gateway, supposed to be more versatile and flip the pancakes. https://solar.schneider-electric.com...onext-gateway/

      Firmware upgrades are done via the browser (risky, because the inverter will shutdown, and you loose your wall wart powering the router the computer is plugged into) or via a microSD card in the slot in the combox (the chassis slot is large enough I missed the connector once and the micro card fell inside the housing)
      Powerfab top of pole PV mount (2) | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||
      || Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
      || VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A

      solar: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Solar
      gen: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Lister

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      • #18
        Well too late, already bought it yesterday. As for the browser firmware upgrade, I do have a plus that is connect to the power company directly, so I would not out of power for the combox and the computer. good to know though. Thank you.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by paulcheung View Post
          INVERTER firmware upgrade, I do have a plus that is connect to the power company directly, so I would not out of power for the combox and the computer. good to know though. Thank you.
          Be sure you are powered by a outlet on the utility side, not the inverter size

          Powerfab top of pole PV mount (2) | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||
          || Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
          || VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A

          solar: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Solar
          gen: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Lister

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          • #20
            Yes I have some misspell here. I still have the old Magnum inverter connect to the battery bank and a plug is connected to it near the XW6848. how long it usually take to upgrade the firmware? the new XW6848 was manufactured on February 2018. do you think it need upgrade?
            Thanks

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            • #21
              Because of all the rebooting of the combox, it takes about 15 minutes to set everything up and do it.

              PRINT the firmware instructions and have them in your hand

              Use a microSD card, less chance of a screwup, not a remote file load over ethernet

              If this is your device: https://solar.schneider-electric.com...olar-inverter/
              the latest firmware is Oct 2017

              Make sure your combox firmware is at least Oct 2017
              Powerfab top of pole PV mount (2) | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||
              || Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
              || VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A

              solar: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Solar
              gen: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Lister

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              • #22
                Yes Mike that is the inverter, it was manufactured February 2018. do you think it has the latest firmware? how do you connect your phone or laptop to the inverter/combox? using USB cable? or wireless.

                Thank you.

                Because I am new to this inverter and I did not buy the remote control for it, instead I bought the combox. I don't want to try mess with it, an experienced installer will come later today to program the unit to the way how I want it to function. I hope I can learn how to program it as I will have to change the settings according to the battery bank condition and usage along the line.
                Last edited by paulcheung; 02-09-2019, 01:24 AM. Reason: additional information

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                • #23
                  I would hope gear mfg'd in 2018 would have the latest 2017 fw in it

                  The appendix in the manual has pages of the settings and how to configure them. Larry with a Ladder & Shade Tree mechs won't generally be able to understand them, you will need some level of electrical background and terminology to be able to knowledgeably configure the settings.
                  Powerfab top of pole PV mount (2) | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||
                  || Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
                  || VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A

                  solar: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Solar
                  gen: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Lister

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                  • #24
                    Hi Mike,
                    I have made a fool of myself, Didn't I? after I read the quick installation guide I understand how it connect the laptop to the Combox, but it didn't show how the Combox connect to the inverter. I am assume it use the Xanbus network. what kind cable it use to connect the Combox to the inverter? is the standard Ethernet cable or a special made cable. The Combox package only come with an Ethernet cable. the gentle man came to program the inverter, he use his SCP connect to the Combox and use the Ethernet cable come in the package to connect the combox to the inverter. is that how it should connect?

                    We have a problem that we can't finish program the inverter. the inverter come with 60 cycle by default and we use 50 cycle in Jamaica. Can the laptop connect to the combox be able to going the firmware to change the 60 cycle to 50 cycle? or I have to get some one who has a special device that connect to the laptop to change that, (that is what the gentle man told me, his friend use a black device connect to the inverter and the laptop to change the default cycle.

                    Thank you.

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                    • #25
                      The Xanbus uses regular ethernet cable. But it requires a termination plug at each end. Plug---Combox-----Xanbus_Cable------XWinverter---Plug

                      Converting from 60 to 50 hz will require new firmware, if it is even possible, you will have to contact Schenider to find out how. Thats a bummer

                      Each piece of Xanbus gear comes with a cable and a terminator. So you should have 2 cables (1 would be a spare) and 2 terminations.

                      The combox has an ethernet jack, that connects to the same router that your computer connects to, and then you use the Combox locater software to acquire the combox IP address which gets entered into your browser and you are connected.
                      Powerfab top of pole PV mount (2) | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||
                      || Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
                      || VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A

                      solar: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Solar
                      gen: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Lister

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                      • #26
                        Hi Mike,
                        The technician carry his friend came with the configuration tool and change the 60Hz to 50Hz. the inverter is at a room about 150 feet from my main router. I need to make a long Ethernet cable to connect the combox to the router. it take some time to get it done and install the wire. Does the internet is mandated to configure the battery voltage etc.? or I can just use a spare router to connect the combox with my laptop to do the configuration until I get the wire installed?
                        Thank you.

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                        • #27
                          You can simply use a spare router, just plug the laptop and the combox into it.

                          BE SURE you use the ethernet port on the combox, or you will inject voltage into your router and fry it.
                          Powerfab top of pole PV mount (2) | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||
                          || Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
                          || VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A

                          solar: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Solar
                          gen: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Lister

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                          • #28
                            The general rule for battery measure for 48V inverters is 100ah battery limit with respect to each 1Kw of yield control. The battery supplies the "swell" current expected to make the air conditioner sinewave. Excessively little of battery and the waveform gets twisted and inverter may close down. On the off chance that you hope to send out 5Kw to the lattice, you need 500ah of the battery to enhance the gradually expanding influences on the DC transport.

                            This is required over the amp hours required for power utilization.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Mike90250 View Post
                              You can simply use a spare router, just plug the laptop and the combox into it.

                              BE SURE you use the ethernet port on the combox, or you will inject voltage into your router and fry it.
                              Thank you Mike, well if is just the router got fried and not the combox or the inverter when a mistake made, I can live with that as the router are very cheap now. Anyway I will make sure it will plug in the Ethernet port. Thanks again.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by niamishra View Post
                                The general rule for battery measure for 48V inverters is 100ah battery limit with respect to each 1Kw of yield control. The battery supplies the "swell" current expected to make the air conditioner sinewave. Excessively little of battery and the waveform gets twisted and inverter may close down. On the off chance that you hope to send out 5Kw to the lattice, you need 500ah of the battery to enhance the gradually expanding influences on the DC transport.

                                This is required over the amp hours required for power utilization.
                                Thanks. Mike already explained that in the previous posts.

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