24 volt system help, newbie

[bahamasolarnoob]

I'll most likely build a solar oven into the south facing wall. I'll also build a distiller which will fit into the solar oven, there's a diagram in one of the Michael Reynolds books I have.
I'll still want the induction cooktop for some quick eggs in the morning etc. 2kwh/day on the cooktop would be over an hour at full use. That'll mostly never happen. My 8.5kwh/day is really a MAX usage.
Any thoughts on the set up?
Thanks!

So you cant light a fire to cook your eggs? Even the amish are allowed to make fire right.

[SunEagle]

So you cant light a fire to cook your eggs? Even the amish are allowed to make fire right.

That would be burning "fossil fuels" which I believe is his main objection.

[bahamasolarnoob]

No not with propane, I meant like a camp fire. Hobbit style.

Why don't you inform me then:

What are the biggest contributers to CO2?

We have some all natural eco bushfires here and in the everglades that produce way more than your two boiled eggs on a camp fire.

Chest freezer 1.5kwh/day
Chest freezer converted to fridge .4kwh/day
Water distiller 3kwh/day
Induction cooktop 2kw/day
Misc 1.5kwh/day

I had to google the earthships, I like them, they look pretty neat. What about a nice clay oven in the back yard, it would save you some Watthours and match your house design. You can bake bread and sell it by the road side. I know an old lady that still bakes bread in them here it tastes pretty good.

[SunEagle]

No not with propane, I meant like a camp fire. Hobbit style.

We have some all natural eco bushfires here and in the everglades that produce way more than your two boiled eggs on a camp fire.
I had to google the earthships, I like them, they look pretty neat. What about a nice clay oven in the back yard, it would save you some Watthours and match your house design. I know an old lady that still bakes bread in them here it tastes pretty good.

Wood is a hydro carbon which will be fossil fuel sometime in the future. I do not believe Anton would even like use that to cook his eggs.

I also like the earthships looks and designs. If you have the land and the funds they would be a nice place to live. If he had natural thermal vents in his area he could capture that heat to cook with.

[FloridaSun]

So you cant light a fire to cook your eggs? Even the amish are allowed to make fire right.

Strange how some think buying a 1/4 ton of batteries for 2Kwh a day cooktop use being 'green'. LPG is much more efficient and easy to use. The biggest contributors to CO2 are people who disreguard anything but their own limited mind and easy way of life, wanting to mindlessly flick a switch for instant gratification, burn more Kwh.

[Sunking]

Strange how some think buying a 1/4 ton of batteries for 2Kwh a day cooktop use being 'green'. LPG is much more efficient and easy to use. The biggest contributors to CO2 are people who disreguard anything but their own limited mind and easy way of life, wanting to mindlessly flick a switch for instant gratification, burn more Kwh.

Yep I am one of those types.

In grade school I won state Science Fair Contest with a 5-Second Hot Dog Roaster. Nothing more than two nails driven through a wood block, and each nail connected to a AC line cord L&N and a switch. Just stick the weeny on the nails and flip the switch on for 5 seconds.

Only problem was with some weenies had natural casings that are kind of strong, and if you left the power on to long would make the weeny explode and blow boiling hot weeny meat all over you. Even had a manufacture play with the design, but never went anywhere as microwave ovens became affordable. Oh well timng was just too late, otherwise might ave retired right out of High School.

[inetdog]

Yep I am one of those types.

In grade school I won state Science Fair Contest with a 5-Second Hot Dog Roaster. Nothing more than two nails driven through a wood block, and each nail connected to a AC line cord L&N and a switch. Just stick the weeny on the nails and flip the switch on for 5 seconds.

Only problem was with some weenies had natural casings that are kind of strong, and if you left the power on to long would make the weeny explode and blow boiling hot weeny meat all over you. Even had a manufacture play with the design, but never went anywhere as microwave ovens became affordable. Oh well timng was just too late, otherwise might ave retired right out of High School.

For some time there was a commercial product on the market. It had, as I recall, at least two sets of spikes, maybe as many as six. For safety there was a clear plastic lid with an interlock switch that would not allow energizing the spikes while the lid was open. Protects from shock and exploding dogs. I never owned one though.

In a similar vein, standard practice for setting off a smoke pot for theatrical was to attach a lighting cord from dimmer panel to two nails inside a can for the smoke powder. To arm it you wound a single strand from 18ga stranded wire around the nails. Lighting cue --> smoke.

[Sunking]

For some time there was a commercial product on the market. It had, as I recall, at least two sets of spikes, maybe as many as six. For safety there was a clear plastic lid with an interlock switch that would not allow energizing the spikes while the lid was open. Protects from shock and exploding dogs. I never owned one though.

In a similar vein, standard practice for setting off a smoke pot for theatrical was to attach a lighting cord from dimmer panel to two nails inside a can for the smoke powder. To arm it you wound a single strand from 18ga stranded wire around the nails. Lighting cue --> smoke.

Yep I know all about it. Being a dumb grade school student I did not know about or get a patent. At least i could have got a Royalty while it lasted.

[FloridaSun]

Yep I am one of those types.

In grade school I won state Science Fair Contest with a 5-Second Hot Dog Roaster. Nothing more than two nails driven through a wood block, and each nail connected to a AC line cord L&N and a switch. Just stick the weeny on the nails and flip the switch on for 5 seconds.

Only problem was with some weenies had natural casings that are kind of strong, and if you left the power on to long would make the weeny explode and blow boiling hot weeny meat all over you. Even had a manufacture play with the design, but never went anywhere as microwave ovens became affordable. Oh well timng was just too late, otherwise might ave retired right out of High School.

I was more into taking apart shotgun shells and making rockets at that age. A kid nowadays would be arrested for what we did back then. Wonder what the safety rules in science fairs are now days.
yeah, then microwaves.... hot dog... reminds me of the old lady that had her mini poodle explode when she tried to dry it in a microwave.

[inetdog]

... reminds me of the old lady that had her mini poodle explode when she tried to dry it in a microwave.

I hope that is just an urban legend.
One mom out in San Jose was arrested for microwaving her baby, but she was flat out crazy.

The story goes that the origin of the idea for the microwave oven was a wartime radar tech who wondered why the candy bar in his pocket melted when he went up to work on the roof next to the antenna.

[Sunking]

I was more into taking apart shotgun shells and making rockets at that age.

Hey you are not alone. I did Estes Rockets back in 5th through 7th grade. I also hunted and had a Reloader for my shotgun. Even made my own Fireworks or I should say Bombs. Back then you could buy anything needed at any farm store. They even had pamplets published by the USDA detailing how to make Anfo from fertlizer to clear tree stumps. Hardware sold everything you needed for it the fertlizer and 24 volt blasting caps to detonate it.

We use to take brown paper sacks, cut them into long strips, Paper Mache them around dowel rods to make M-80 casings. Plugged the ends with slices of the dowel rod, filled them with Pistol Powder, and use dynamite fuse bought from the hardware store. Then we learned about Powdered Aluminum and Potassium Perchlorate you could buy at most pharmacies and make flash powder with We used that instead of pistol powder. It would make one hell of BANG. You could break windows if too close to a house or between buildings. Don't ask me how I know that.

[SunEagle]

Hey you are not alone. I did Estes Rockets back in 5th through 7th grade. I also hunted and had a Reloader for my shotgun. Even made my own Fireworks or I should say Bombs. Back then you could buy anything needed at any farm store. They even had pamplets published by the USDA detailing how to make Anfo from fertlizer to clear tree stumps. Hardware sold everything you needed for it the fertlizer and 24 volt blasting caps to detonate it.

We use to take brown paper sacks, cut them into long strips, Paper Mache them around dowel rods to make M-80 casings. Plugged the ends with slices of the dowel rod, filled them with Pistol Powder, and use dynamite fuse bought from the hardware store. Then we learned about Powdered Aluminum and Potassium Perchlorate you could buy at most pharmacies and make flash powder with We used that instead of pistol powder. It would make one hell of BANG. You could break windows if too close to a house or between buildings. Don't ask me how I know that.

Heck in the back of popular science there were adds to make your own fireworks. The kit came with fuse, wooden tubing, corks and flash powder. Them things made very big bangs and it was all legal through the mail.

I use to shoot off rockets made by Alfa Centaury. Those cardboard tubes with balsa nose cones would go up a couple thousand feet with even one of the smaller rocket engines. Of course they would come down far from the launch site if I used a parachute and came down hard if I only used a streamer. Fun times back in the late 60's.

[FloridaSun]

Hey you are not alone. I did Estes Rockets back in 5th through 7th grade. I also hunted and had a Reloader for my shotgun. Even made my own Fireworks or I should say Bombs. Back then you could buy anything needed at any farm store. They even had pamplets published by the USDA detailing how to make Anfo from fertlizer to clear tree stumps. Hardware sold everything you needed for it the fertlizer and 24 volt blasting caps to detonate it.

We use to take brown paper sacks, cut them into long strips, Paper Mache them around dowel rods to make M-80 casings. Plugged the ends with slices of the dowel rod, filled them with Pistol Powder, and use dynamite fuse bought from the hardware store. Then we learned about Powdered Aluminum and Potassium Perchlorate you could buy at most pharmacies and make flash powder with We used that instead of pistol powder. It would make one hell of BANG. You could break windows if too close to a house or between buildings. Don't ask me how I know that.

ah... back in the good ol days when it was safe to play with explosives. ..twas a different world back then.

[Sunking]

Heck in the back of popular science there were adds to make your own fireworks. The kit came with fuse, wooden tubing, corks and flash powder. Them things made very big bangs and it was all legal through the mail.

I use to shoot off rockets made by Alfa Centaury. Those cardboard tubes with balsa nose cones would go up a couple thousand feet with even one of the smaller rocket engines. Of course they would come down far from the launch site if I used a parachute and came down hard if I only used a streamer. Fun times back in the late 60's.

Google Kurt Saxton. Once in a while you will hear me say Poor Man's James Bond. Met the man about 25 years ago in Alpena Arkansas just west of Harrison. Got stuck working in Harrison and snowed in for a weekend. Had a copy of Poor Man's James Bond and knew he lived around there. Found him in the phone book, called him up, and the crazy SOB invited me over for dinner. The ole fart is Crazy as a loon but one of the nicest gracious host I have ever had the pleasure to be around. Spent about 3 hours with him and his wife. One smart cookie and knows his history. Gave me autographed copies of every book he published, and a stack of Survivalist magazines he published. He was a Prepper before there was a name for it. Back then they called themselves Survivalist in the 60's.

The ole fart was so radical in the 60's the US Senate called him in on a subpena and had the FBI investigate him. Crazy ole bastard is proud of it, he won and likens himself to Howard Hughes who told them to go blow smoke. . He has one wall in his house with all the photos, audio tapes, and newspaper clips during the hearing. He is a Folk Hero in Arkansas. Strange thing is I found him very nice and a gentleman. He mellowed out quite a bit before I met him. Exchanged emails with him a couple of years ago and he remembers me.