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  • J.P.M.
    Solar Fanatic
    • Aug 2013
    • 15022

    #46
    Originally posted by eugenep
    Does the csi database include sales tax?
    I Don't think so. The price I paid to the vendor and the price shown for my job on the CSI database was the same.

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    • silversaver
      Solar Fanatic
      • Jul 2013
      • 1390

      #47
      Originally posted by eugenep
      Does the csi database include sales tax?
      The price you see on CSI datebase is the complete job costs included part,labor and all fees. You don't need to pay any sales taxes on top of that amount. In construction, you pay for completed job. You don't have to worry about sales tax because there is none apply to you.

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      • bigroccrek
        Junior Member
        • Dec 2013
        • 12

        #48
        Originally posted by silversaver
        The price you see on CSI datebase is the complete job costs included part,labor and all fees. You don't need to pay any sales taxes on top of that amount. In construction, you pay for completed job. You don't have to worry about sales tax because there is none apply to you.
        Hello! I have been searching the CSI website for the system price information but so far all I've found is the average price/kW for systems installed in my area. Can someone post the link to the "price" information where the "price" database location URL or is it simply the spreadsheet i found and just do the math?

        Thanks!

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        • J.P.M.
          Solar Fanatic
          • Aug 2013
          • 15022

          #49
          Originally posted by bigroccrek
          Hello! I have been searching the CSI website for the system price information but so far all I've found is the average price/kW for systems installed in my area. Can someone post the link to the "price" information where the "price" database location URL or is it simply the spreadsheet i found and just do the math?

          Thanks!
          1.) Go to the "Go Solar California" website.

          2.) Click on "Download Current CSI data"

          3.) Either save or open the file. I'd suggest saving and then opening.

          The most current data set is from 12/18/2013. New (updated) spreadsheets are issued on Weds barring glitches/holidays.

          The 12/18/2013 version (latest) has 162,342 rows. Each row represents a "job" with everything about that job one could likely want except the name and mailing address of the owner. The price is in column "H". That price is before fed. tax credits or any CSI incentives.

          The database is a very powerful tool if some time is spent learning how to use all the info. Sort/comb/separate by price, date, zip, size, mfr., etc. Add col. for price/Watt, whatever. It can be a real eye opener. Enjoy.

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          • silversaver
            Solar Fanatic
            • Jul 2013
            • 1390

            #50
            Originally posted by bigroccrek
            Hello! I have been searching the CSI website for the system price information but so far all I've found is the average price/kW for systems installed in my area. Can someone post the link to the "price" information where the "price" database location URL or is it simply the spreadsheet i found and just do the math?

            Thanks!


            Download the "Raw Data Set" because it has most current database of people who just submit their CSI application. Highlight or look column"W" "First New Reservation". Using "Sort & Filter" from a to z, It will sorting from oldest to newest. Use you zip code to find your neighbors' solar sizes and prices they pay. Play with it, if you want to know what others in area paying for their solar. It has detail information just about everything.

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            • bigroccrek
              Junior Member
              • Dec 2013
              • 12

              #51
              Originally posted by silversaver
              http://www.californiasolarstatistics...nt_data_files/

              Download the "Raw Data Set" because it has most current database of people who just submit their CSI application. Highlight or look column"W" "First New Reservation". Using "Sort & Filter" from a to z, It will sorting from oldest to newest. Use you zip code to find your neighbors' solar sizes and prices they pay. Play with it, if you want to know what others in area paying for their solar. It has detail information just about everything.
              Thanks for all the help. I went through the database and wow! I found the exact same system, same size, same exact components I am looking at, installed by the same installer in April of 2013 for $6000 LESS then what the installer quoted for my installation. I think me and the installer need to talk!!

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              • J.P.M.
                Solar Fanatic
                • Aug 2013
                • 15022

                #52
                Originally posted by bigroccrek
                Thanks for all the help. I went through the database and wow! I found the exact same system, same size, same exact components I am looking at, installed by the same installer in April of 2013 for $6000 LESS then what the installer quoted for my installation. I think me and the installer need to talk!!
                Like I wrote, a pretty powerful tool.

                J.P.M.

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                • silversaver
                  Solar Fanatic
                  • Jul 2013
                  • 1390

                  #53
                  Originally posted by bigroccrek
                  Thanks for all the help. I went through the database and wow! I found the exact same system, same size, same exact components I am looking at, installed by the same installer in April of 2013 for $6000 LESS then what the installer quoted for my installation. I think me and the installer need to talk!!
                  I wont be surprise about it. I have seems a recent installed 11.76kW with 245W Kyocera for $49,200 in San Diego area on the forum who used the same installer as I did. That is about $4.18 per Watt. That is about the price for a SunPower system.... I guess the most important part is having a happy customer.

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                  • bando
                    Solar Fanatic
                    • Oct 2013
                    • 153

                    #54
                    Originally posted by silversaver
                    I wont be surprise about it. I have seems a recent installed 11.76kW with 245W Kyocera for $49,200 in San Diego area on the forum who used the same installer as I did. That is about $4.18 per Watt. That is about the price for a SunPower system.... I guess the most important part is having a happy customer.
                    That sounds like our system but nowhere near what we paid ... Ours comes out to 3.36/w

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                    • silversaver
                      Solar Fanatic
                      • Jul 2013
                      • 1390

                      #55
                      Originally posted by bando
                      That sounds like our system but nowhere near what we paid ... Ours comes out to 3.36/w
                      I was just writing a message to you..... on CSI database the installer claim $49,200 with zip code CA 92130 utilities company CCSE. Exact same amount of panels with SMA 3000TL & 8000US inverters. CSI Application: SD-CSI-18133

                      Take it a look. What is your gross cost? I meant before all incentives.

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                      • J.P.M.
                        Solar Fanatic
                        • Aug 2013
                        • 15022

                        #56
                        Originally posted by silversaver
                        I was just writing a message to you..... on CSI database the installer claim $49,200 with zip code CA 92130 utilities company CCSE. Exact same amount of panels with SMA 3000TL & 8000US inverters. CSI Application: SD-CSI-18133

                        Take it a look. What is your gross cost? I meant before all incentives.
                        Something seems amiss here.

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                        • bigroccrek
                          Junior Member
                          • Dec 2013
                          • 12

                          #57
                          Originally posted by J.P.M.
                          Like I wrote, a pretty powerful tool.

                          J.P.M.
                          Hello I just wanted to try and confirm......The "Total Cost" information on the CSI Database is teh total cost of teh system before rebates? Can anyone confirm this? Thanks!

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                          • J.P.M.
                            Solar Fanatic
                            • Aug 2013
                            • 15022

                            #58
                            Originally posted by bigroccrek
                            Hello I just wanted to try and confirm......The "Total Cost" information on the CSI Database is teh total cost of teh system before rebates? Can anyone confirm this? Thanks!
                            The answer to your first question above is yes. The answer to your 2d question: The "Total Cost" in the CSI database is what you pay to the vendor - dealer prep, freight, title, taxes, floor mats, goofs & giggles. Federal tax credits and or any other incentives, rebates or kickbacks are not included in the "Total Cost".

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                            • bigroccrek
                              Junior Member
                              • Dec 2013
                              • 12

                              #59
                              Originally posted by J.P.M.
                              The answer to your first question above is yes. The answer to your 2d question: The "Total Cost" in the CSI database is what you pay to the vendor - dealer prep, freight, title, taxes, floor mats, goofs & giggles. Federal tax credits and or any other incentives, rebates or kickbacks are not included in the "Total Cost".
                              Thanks J.P.M. I wanted to confirm the data before I had a discussion with teh installer regarding the price.

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                              • posey_mvp
                                Junior Member
                                • Dec 2013
                                • 7

                                #60
                                new to Solar panel

                                hi,

                                I'm new to Solar and looking for a new install in san jose (95148 area code). I'm going to be getting a couple quotes soon.. I downloaded the CSI data but I'm not sure how to read it.. the price per watt is that in column L : "CSI Rating"?

                                my PG&E electricity bill is around 200-300/mon.

                                thanks..

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