Anyone Using Electric car as storage battery

[Mike90250]

The boiling battery is ruined. Either sulfated or oxidized, Likely warped plates and cracked separators too. No repairing or recovery for long term, recycle it, or RMA it.
And all the other cells in the same string, are well on their way to toast land too, if they also warmed up at all. I'm not a chemist, but I know abuse damages a battery.

[cebury]

Back to the last point of discussion, I'm not sure Santa is even aware that today's EVs have two batteries. He was suggesting to draw from the "big" battery via the 12v vpp system for nighttime use age. SunEagle tried to clarify but I don't think it took.

[santaclaws]

The boiling battery is ruined. Either sulfated or oxidized, Likely warped plates and cracked separators too. No repairing or recovery for long term, recycle it, or RMA it.
And all the other cells in the same string, are well on their way to toast land too, if they also warmed up at all. I'm not a chemist, but I know abuse damages a battery.

I guess you're right. My initial question was how long is the "long" boiling duration for my 12V/225A battery, by example, to suffer serious damages?

Also, what kind of damage do they encounter? You did mention about sulfation, too, but I've read that this is a specific "disease" of chronically undercharging abuse only.

Nevermind, I'm going to recycle both of them. Sorry for hi-jacking this thread.

@cebury:

Now I'm aware that EVs have a separate battery for housekeeping. It just looks awkward to have an untouchable multi-kW power supply in your car.

[Mike90250]

......Now I'm aware that EVs have a separate battery for housekeeping. It just looks awkward to have an untouchable multi-kW power supply in your car.

see http://www.priups.com/ about how to correctly use a Prius as a UPS

[cebury]

I guess you're right. My initial question was how long is the "long" boiling duration for my 12V/225A battery, by example, to suffer serious damages?

Also, what kind of damage do they encounter? You did mention about sulfation, too, but I've read that this is a specific "disease" of chronically undercharging abuse only.

Nevermind, I'm going to recycle both of them. Sorry for hi-jacking this thread.

@cebury:

Now I'm aware that EVs have a separate battery for housekeeping. It just looks awkward to have an untouchable multi-kW power supply in your car.

I agree. It's just like when folks hear "I have no/none? electricity when the main grid is down, yet have all these panels sitting in the sun that turned themselves off?" It creates an itch that most common folks really want to scratch. The SPS feature on SMA inverter provides some itch relief, but then really how often will it be used? Probably close to never in some regions, sometimes in other regions where weather knocks out grid but the panels are still good.

[bcroe]

see *** about how to correctly use a Prius as a UPS

So a Prius has a battery of similar voltage to a UPS, and its gas engine can keep things going indefinitely. But since
I have no desperate need for uninterrupted power, I'd rather skip the UPS and all its batteries. And for so many of
us, a generator is far cheaper than a Prius. I learned a very long time ago, that a starter motor is a far better approach
than a cord to pull. Bruce Roe

[Sunking]

So a Prius has a battery of similar voltage to a UPS, and its gas engine can keep things going indefinitely. But since
I have no desperate need for uninterrupted power, I'd rather skip the UPS and all its batteries. And for so many of
us, a generator is far cheaper than a Prius. I learned a very long time ago, that a starter motor is a far better approach
than a cord to pull. Bruce Roe.

Yeah pull cords are a bwitch in an ice storm or blizzard. Especially if it is old, cold, brittle and breaks after the first pull. Well make you cuss like a drunk sailor in a Ho House.

[Mike90250]

The hand crank was better than the starter cord (except on the chainsaw) Crank is on the lower part of the pic
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