Attention Inventors: Google's Inverter Challenge

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  • Rdjntx
    Solar Fanatic
    • Jul 2012
    • 195

    #16
    I have a Ford Focus Titanium (2012) that self parks (parallel parking) and it is a hoot. scary as hell the first time you use it because you are all like "I will NEVER fit in that space holy crap!!" and "IT's CUTTING IT TOO CLOSE!" but park it it did and parked it well. I don't use it much but when I do, it's to show off LOL

    Originally posted by Ian S
    Me too. Although I'm intrigued by the self parking feature now available. Anyone actually have experience with one?

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    • Sunking
      Solar Fanatic
      • Feb 2010
      • 23301

      #17
      Originally posted by JCP
      On the subject of self driving cars,
      Technically it is already being done. Examples are modern warehouses with automated lift trucks, metro and airport light rail services already have and using it. For roadways the concept is called PLATOONS where a large group of vehicles move as a single unit, and sorted to peel off at exits to merge into another Platoon.
      MSEE, PE

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      • SunEagle
        Super Moderator
        • Oct 2012
        • 15123

        #18
        Originally posted by Mike90250
        And each passenger has their own brain that can say, Put seatbelt on.
        Except 3 of them were kids and Parents are supposed to look out for their children's welfare.

        It is also the law in Florida that the driver is responsible to make sure everyone is safely buckled up before driving off.

        I know he just lost his wife and daughter and may even lose his sons but the SOB should be brought up on charges. It is truly a tragedy.

        Not saying a fully autonomous vehicle would be totally safe but it sure might reduce the number of accidents due to drivers paying attention to texting or grooming instead of the main focus of driving.

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        • Sunking
          Solar Fanatic
          • Feb 2010
          • 23301

          #19
          Originally posted by SunEagle
          Not saying a fully autonomous vehicle would be totally safe but it sure might reduce the number of accidents due to drivers paying attention to texting or grooming instead of the main focus of driving.
          I do not see that happening anytime soon especially in the USA. When wrecks happen on an automated system who is liable and pays up? Do you want to give up another act of Freedom to the Goberment?

          All I can say to both questions is NOT ME. I prefer to take my chances and put my fate in mine and God's hands.
          MSEE, PE

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          • JCP
            Solar Fanatic
            • Mar 2014
            • 221

            #20
            Originally posted by SunEagle
            Except 3 of them were kids and Parents are supposed to look out for their children's welfare.

            It is also the law in Florida that the driver is responsible to make sure everyone is safely buckled up before driving off.

            I know he just lost his wife and daughter and may even lose his sons but the SOB should be brought up on charges. It is truly a tragedy.

            Not saying a fully autonomous vehicle would be totally safe but it sure might reduce the number of accidents due to drivers paying attention to texting or grooming instead of the main focus of driving.
            Provided that the code is well QA'd (big assumption), a self driving car would probably be safer than a human driven car. I think that the difference is that we've come to grips with the fact that we make mistakes all the time, sometimes with dire consequences, but have not accepted yet that machines are fallible as well. So, if a Google car f... up once in a great while and kills its passengers, we'll all be up in arms, but readily accept that we kill each other on the road on a daily basis. At any rate, it'll be a while before it becomes remotely affordable. I read somewhere that a Google car costs over $100K in equipment right now.

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            • KenZ71
              Junior Member
              • Jun 2014
              • 11

              #21
              I know a lot of people who would be much safer to themselves and those around them if they were in an automated vehicle.

              As for the original topic, a better inverter yes that would be huge. Not just for solar, imagine better inverters for generators, UPS systems, the possibilities are huge in my opinion.

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              • SunEagle
                Super Moderator
                • Oct 2012
                • 15123

                #22
                Originally posted by KenZ71
                I know a lot of people who would be much safer to themselves and those around them if they were in an automated vehicle.

                As for the original topic, a better inverter yes that would be huge. Not just for solar, imagine better inverters for generators, UPS systems, the possibilities are huge in my opinion.
                Agreed. A more efficient inverter would be a boom to many industries. Hopefully whoever thinks one up will also consider it should be able to mitigate the harmonic distortion an inverter creates.

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                • Sunking
                  Solar Fanatic
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 23301

                  #23
                  Originally posted by KenZ71
                  As for the original topic, a better inverter yes that would be huge. Not just for solar, imagine better inverters for generators, UPS systems, the possibilities are huge in my opinion.
                  All those things are mature technologies. I have used many 1 MW inverters in data centers, they are commercial units with extremely high efficiency of 95% and better. Really not much room foe improvement.

                  Google does not have a good track record when it come to Energy. They were heavily invested in Nano Solar a USA thin film panel manufacture that only made but 3 panels.
                  MSEE, PE

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                  • Mike90250
                    Moderator
                    • May 2009
                    • 16020

                    #24
                    automated vehicle

                    Automated vehicles fall apart when the Botts dots vanish, or construction has moved or changed the dotted lines for lanes. Google is only testing on cherry picked roads in pristine condition.

                    many years ago, I worked with the Terrahawk autonomous vehicle for the DARPA challenge, and when ever something unforeseen happens (a tree branch in the path, paper on the road) that the computer has no response for, it either stops or ignores it. Not good if you are half asleep and the system beeps and reverts to MANUAL. At least when we ignored it, the wheel travel was enough to handle driving over a K rail or whatever the problem was. Didn't help our score all the time. Not all the other vehicles were so lucky.
                    We had one NiCad pack (60KWh) meltdown, almost took out the vehicle, but we were able to hack the battery apart fast enough to save the rest of the car.
                    Powerfab top of pole PV mount (2) | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||
                    || Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
                    || VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A

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                    gen: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Lister

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                    • Ian S
                      Solar Fanatic
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 1879

                      #25
                      Originally posted by KenZ71
                      I know a lot of people who would be much safer to themselves and those around them if they were in an automated vehicle.

                      As for the original topic, a better inverter yes that would be huge. Not just for solar, imagine better inverters for generators, UPS systems, the possibilities are huge in my opinion.
                      But they seem to be emphasizing a smaller size as opposed to higher efficiency. I don't see the point in that for residential solar installations.

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                      • russ
                        Solar Fanatic
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 10360

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Ian S
                        But they seem to be emphasizing a smaller size as opposed to higher efficiency. I don't see the point in that for residential solar installations.
                        100% correct - they are chasing a problem that does not really need a solution. However, this will make the green bunch all excited and happy so it serves their purpose. PR is everything.
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                        • russ
                          Solar Fanatic
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 10360

                          #27
                          Originally posted by JCP
                          On the subject of self driving cars, I'd personally love the idea. Go out partying, get in the car and tell the car to take you home safely. Now, that'd be progress!! Realistically, I think that the best we can hope for, especially in the liability lawsuit crazed people republic of California, is enhanced collision avoidance automation. May not be the moon shot they're going for, but it may go a long way toward making road safer.
                          That I agree with!
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                          • JCP
                            Solar Fanatic
                            • Mar 2014
                            • 221

                            #28
                            Originally posted by russ
                            That I agree with!
                            Russ and I agreed on something. I just put an X on my calendar.

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                            • russ
                              Solar Fanatic
                              • Jul 2009
                              • 10360

                              #29
                              Originally posted by JCP
                              Russ and I agreed on something. I just put an X on my calendar.
                              Good one! You got me!
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