Inverter only producing half power

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  • JerryA
    Junior Member
    • Apr 2019
    • 7

    #16
    I see now I should have insisted it was a problem with the panels. Then you guys would have told me how to troubleshoot the inverter.

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    • jflorey2
      Solar Fanatic
      • Aug 2015
      • 2331

      #17
      Originally posted by JerryA
      I see now I should have insisted it was a problem with the panels. Then you guys would have told me how to troubleshoot the inverter.
      Well, the problem is one of the two. Start narrowing it down!

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      • JerryA
        Junior Member
        • Apr 2019
        • 7

        #18
        I did narrow it down. The problem is with the inverter. That was what I said to begin with. Whatever problem might happen in the panels it would result in different currents in the two parallel arrays. No one has suggested a single thing I might do or check on the inverter.

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        • jflorey2
          Solar Fanatic
          • Aug 2015
          • 2331

          #19
          Originally posted by JerryA
          I did narrow it down. The problem is with the inverter. That was what I said to begin with. Whatever problem might happen in the panels it would result in different currents in the two parallel arrays. No one has suggested a single thing I might do or check on the inverter.
          OK, so some other things to try -

          Disconnect one string. If power falls by 50% (and strings are equal size) then it's likely a problem that's affecting the entire array, like fouling or catastrophic degradation. If it remains at the same power, you are likely seeing the inverter doing power limiting due to hitting a thermal or current limit (or more accurately THINKING it is hitting a thermal or current limit.)

          Now disconnect the other. If one array causes no change when disconnected, but the other causes a huge change, then that's the problem - an issue on the inverter's terminal block, or in the wiring between the inverter and the array.

          Monitor array voltage, then disconnect the AC from the grid and reconnect it. It will take around 2 minutes for the inverter to turn back on, depending on when it was made. If both array voltages droop a fair amount (say 10% or so) then the inverter is accurately finding the peak power point, and the problem is on the array side. If it remains at almost the same voltage (within a few percent) then it's not accurately tracking MPPT and it's the inverter.

          BTW the Fronius only has one MPPT channel; the three string inputs are physically connected together internally. So it can't be that one of the "two units" failed.

          BTW2: "If the array was bad then the voltage input to the inverter would be sagging under load. Didn't see that happening. " - Voltage sagging means everything is working right; the inverter is hunting for the MPP voltage, finding it and then operating there.

          Mandatory warning - unless you are VERY experienced working with HVDC, do NOT try to mess with the PV side of things unless there's a technician/electrician there you to help you! HVDC is much more dangerous than AC, and will kill you very quickly unless you know exactly what you are doing.

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          • JerryA
            Junior Member
            • Apr 2019
            • 7

            #20
            Thank you! These are great suggestions.

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            • JerryA
              Junior Member
              • Apr 2019
              • 7

              #21
              Finally got the inverter replaced. Still under producing so I guess people here were right about the pannels.

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              • nwdiver
                Solar Fanatic
                • Mar 2019
                • 422

                #22
                Originally posted by JerryA
                Finally got the inverter replaced. Still under producing so I guess people here were right about the pannels.
                How many panels and what type in a string? Which new inverter did you get?

                A friends inverter began to suffer as the panels aged because the MPP band was 350-480. The voltage of the panels dipped a bit as they aged and on warmer days the inverter was significantly outside it's MPP band causing a ~20% drop in performance.

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                • JerryA
                  Junior Member
                  • Apr 2019
                  • 7

                  #23
                  To follow up ... Technician came out again. I mentioned to him that the system seemed to have two modes. Producing normal power and sometimes producing half power. He told me he found a loose connection where the fuses were on the roof. I am thinking that one of the two strings was intermittent. Was never failing when the technicians were present. Time will tell if this fixed the problem.

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