Solar panels increase house prices.

[snic]

\So you want the government to throw money at solar for some pie in the sky concept?

The pie-in-the-sky concept is that a market for solar will facilitate innovation, making it more and more efficient, affordable and widespread, so that eventually it contributes significantly to energy production and reduces use of fossil fuels.

It might be pie in the sky, but so was the airplane when those bicycle mechanics went flapping around on the beach in North Carolina 114 years ago.

[snic]

the debate on climate change is over. One of the coldest winters on record. 14 degrees in north Dallas today and powder snow.

Of course your one single anecdote beats the opinion of hundreds of scientists who have studied the issue for decades, using multiple approaches and analysis methods to crunch through all kinds of data, and overwhelmingly reached the same conclusion: global warming is real and it's man-made.

Yep. There's some snow in Dallas today. They must have gotten it all wrong.

[russ]

I hope a fresh wind blowing towards solar (I guess, pun intended) will be drifting across this state soon.

\So you want the government to throw money at solar for some pie in the sky concept?

[SunEagle]

No question about it. It is NO CONTEST TX has 12.2 GW installed capacity. CA is a distant 2nd @ 5.6 GW followed by Iowa @ 5.3 GW. No other state even comes close to TX. See for yourself here

Looks like California are trying to catch up. I have been following the news from RenewablesBiz and it looks like California will be swapping out the much older and smaller wind turbines up in the Patterson Pass wind farm. The existing 300 65kw turbines (installed in 1985) will be replaced with a lot less but newer turbines that are in the 2 to 3 mega watt range. They will get more output and but have about 96% less wind turbines.

[Sunking]

Hm, maybe my image of Texas as full of enormous guys in 10 gallon hats driving enormous trucks all over their enormous state with the help of enormously cheap fuel is just a stereotype!

Yeah perhaps. Well no 10 gallon hats, but the rest is true. TX is a energy exporter. We have no state income tax, low property taxes, high wages, and low unemployment. We are a Conservative State with Conservative principles. We lead the country in growth and economics. Only state that can compare is North Dakota which is another Conservative state and energy exporter. TX i snot perfect, but better than most. If it makes you feel better NoBama was right in his State of Union Address, the debate on climate change is over. One of the coldest winters on record. 14 degrees in north Dallas today and powder snow. Never seen that here or this late in the year. Normally I can plant Tomatoes and Pepper March 1. Not this year.

[Sunking]

Actually there is more electricity generated from wind in Texas than any other state except maybe California.

No question about it. It is NO CONTEST TX has 12.2 GW installed capacity. CA is a distant 2nd @ 5.6 GW followed by Iowa @ 5.3 GW. No other state even comes close to TX. See for yourself here

[snic]

Hm, maybe my image of Texas as full of enormous guys in 10 gallon hats driving enormous trucks all over their enormous state with the help of enormously cheap fuel is just a stereotype!

[SunEagle]

This is what fuels (pardon the pun) Texans' attitudes towards energy usage. If electricity were expensive, solar would be viewed more favorably.

Even Texas has a few people tooling around in subcompact cars rather than SUVs that get 8 mpg. When gas is $8/gallon, there will be more energy-efficient cars. And when electricity is 20 cents/kWh, there will be more interest in solar.

Actually there is more electricity generated from wind in Texas than any other state except maybe California. Texas is serious about renewable energy but wind seems to be more profitable than solar for now regardless of what the price of gas is.

Some of the state legislation is looking at the times that wind doesn't generate due to the hot sunny weather but would be a great time to generate using solar. So a combination of the two types of energy generations is being considered so that they provide power at different times which would reduce the time of interruptions.

[snic]

Texas has "cheap electricity"

This is what fuels (pardon the pun) Texans' attitudes towards energy usage. If electricity were expensive, solar would be viewed more favorably.

Even Texas has a few people tooling around in subcompact cars rather than SUVs that get 8 mpg. When gas is $8/gallon, there will be more energy-efficient cars. And when electricity is 20 cents/kWh, there will be more interest in solar.

[bcroe]

Sale Value

[FONT=Comic Sans MS]Trying to sell your homestead Bruce?

Not for sale, but I am trying to make it as saleable as possible. In other words, working
exactly the way I want. Bruce

[SunEagle]

Every location has a different energy perspective, and not every buyer will want to think
about energy conservation. But a northern house with no panels visible, R50+ in the attic,
no electric energy bill, and very little heating bill, might be viewed quite differently than yours.
Bruce Roe

Trying to sell your homestead Bruce?

[bcroe]

Energy perceived value

Every location has a different energy perspective, and not every buyer will want to think
about energy conservation. But a northern house with no panels visible, R50+ in the attic,
no electric energy bill, and very little heating bill, might be viewed quite differently than yours.
Bruce Roe

I can easily see how in some places, installing solar would actually do
nothing for the resale value. But that's mostly because of certain attitudes prevailing in places
where energy is consumed in a thoughtless fashion. Where I live, the interest in solar is quasi
zero. People are mostly indifferent, and if there is interest in my installation, it's usually coupled
with suspicion that "all this money" is wasted on that "newfangled stuff." Realty prices are often
more about perception of the value than the actual value.

I just imagine potential buyers of my home (not that I ever wanted to sell it) and shake their
heads in disbelief at "them ugly things on the roof."

In Texas, for the average homeowner of an old sprawling 1960s ranch with old windows, little to
no attic insulation and old AC unit consuming 15,000 kWh a year, installing solar indeed is a losing
proposition. People who install solar usually have done some energy conservation beforehand and
are thus more thoughtful. Since most people don't care, they will not be willing to pay more for a
house with solar panels that would save them perhaps 20% on their humongous electricity bill.

[russ]

Hi, Going with Solar will save money and also it increases your home value.

Maybe so and maybe no - it should but a blanket statement is not possible.

[swasa]

Hi, Going with Solar will save money and also it increases your home value.

[catechnologies]

solar panel increase the value of house

yes, it is trend in China that a house with practical and reliable solar system is more popular and value-added.