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  • jetsurgn
    Junior Member
    • Mar 2016
    • 30

    Enphase or Suniva

    DIY project in SoCal LADWP

    LG 315 with Enphase S280
    or
    Suniva 275 blemished with Enphase M250

    About .50/watt difference

    Going on a Single Gable roof with a 22 degree pitch (17 Ideal for location) facing south with a measurment of 62' x 10.5' with only one vent pipe near the ridge. Slight tree shading is possible.

    I was thinking of 16 portrait or 20 landscape. Landscape just has double the roof pentrations.
    Last edited by jetsurgn; 03-16-2016, 06:26 PM.
  • sensij
    Solar Fanatic
    • Sep 2014
    • 5074

    #2
    For net metering with a south azimuth, tilt = latitude is usually ideal. For SoCal, figure that is around 30-35 deg. Use PVWatts to estimate output for your specific location.

    For me... if space isn't a constraint, I'd be looking for a panel less expensive than the LG315 but of higher quality than a "blemished" Suniva. Maybe halfway in between on price.
    CS6P-260P/SE3000 - http://tiny.cc/ed5ozx

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    • jetsurgn
      Junior Member
      • Mar 2016
      • 30

      #3
      Sensij - Thanks so much for your reply. So your saying the Sunvia blemished panels is not a good deal at .79/w and the LG panel is to much at 1.19/w. Might I ask what panel you recommend? What is reasoning behind not liking the Suniva panel, just trying to learn. Thank you!

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      • sensij
        Solar Fanatic
        • Sep 2014
        • 5074

        #4
        What does a blemish mean? What is the price of an unblemished Suniva panel? Panels from Canadian Solar, SolarWorld, and other reliable manufacturers can be had for less than $1/W.
        CS6P-260P/SE3000 - http://tiny.cc/ed5ozx

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        • jetsurgn
          Junior Member
          • Mar 2016
          • 30

          #5
          Sensij - Thanks for getting back to me.
          Suniva 275w Mono Black new costs 265 - 303.00
          Or blemished for 217 each

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          • sensij
            Solar Fanatic
            • Sep 2014
            • 5074

            #6
            Renvu has several pictures of the blemishes. I've got a couple scuffs in the AR coating in my panels from rough handling during installation, and the effect on overall power produced is negligible. Some of the pictured panels look moderately affected, and I don't know what the black stuff is on the backside. If you want all-black mono, it doesn't look like a bad gamble to me. Especially DIY, if you find a problem later, you will be capable of replacing the panel yourself, so not really a big risk.
            CS6P-260P/SE3000 - http://tiny.cc/ed5ozx

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            • Dndpos
              Junior Member
              • Mar 2016
              • 12

              #7
              I have heard a few good things about Suniva panels but I myself have had very negative experienced about Suniva customer services. I can't call them, no one is answering, and if you leave a voicemail no one will call you back, and if I write an email you will get an automated reply about 48 hrs responding time and ended up no returned email at all.

              I do want to support Suniva Solar, USA made, and priced out very well, but at this rate their company will collapse soon there you go your 25yrs warranty.

              Check before you decided.

              If you have had better experience will them, please kept me know how. Because I am about just to give up on them.

              Thanks

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              • sensij
                Solar Fanatic
                • Sep 2014
                • 5074

                #8
                Originally posted by Dndpos
                If you have had better experience will them, please kept me know how. Because I am about just to give up on them.
                Their customers are primarily distributors and other entities that move large quantities of panels. Why are you trying to reach them? By the time a panel gets to a homeowner, there isn't much to do. I wouldn't expect much service from any of the panel companies, to be honest.
                CS6P-260P/SE3000 - http://tiny.cc/ed5ozx

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                • Dndpos
                  Junior Member
                  • Mar 2016
                  • 12

                  #9
                  Originally posted by sensij

                  Their customers are primarily distributors and other entities that move large quantities of panels. Why are you trying to reach them? By the time a panel gets to a homeowner, there isn't much to do. I wouldn't expect much service from any of the panel companies, to be honest.

                  Well, I called Sunpower, solarworld, etc...they pick up the call and answer my questions just fine. As one of the leading Solar producers, especially MADE IN USA, logo. Anyway, it is the principles of business that they are lacking, I mean I do like them, but man...you can't have that kind mentally in America.

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                  • ButchDeal
                    Solar Fanatic
                    • Apr 2014
                    • 3802

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Dndpos


                    Well, I called Sunpower, solarworld, etc...they pick up the call and answer my questions just fine. As one of the leading Solar producers, especially MADE IN USA, logo. Anyway, it is the principles of business that they are lacking, I mean I do like them, but man...you can't have that kind mentally in America.
                    They are not doing business with you. They have distributors and resellers. try calling GE about your water heater, or Rheem about your heatpump. They are not set up to deal with residential presales support, thats why they have contracts with big box stores, distributors, etc.

                    My only issue with Suniva is unreliable supply chain, last year we sold quite a bit of their product and had to change them all out due to unavailability.
                    The supply of product IS their primary business.
                    OutBack FP1 w/ CS6P-250P http://bit.ly/1Sg5VNH

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                    • MGE
                      Solar Fanatic
                      • Feb 2013
                      • 148

                      #11
                      I have (34) Suniva OPT260-60-4-1B0 panels paid $244 apiece for them back in March of 2013 and no issues whatsoever. Consistantly getting output of about 85% rating at peak time of day. Which works with the Enphase 215's that I have paired with them. Don't know there current status as far as supplies go but seems to be well built and trouble free at least so far.

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