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  • Cshama
    Member
    • Jan 2021
    • 69

    #1

    What does this mean?

    I contacted Coned to try to change my solar anniversary date and they sent me this in return. Does it mean my solar credits never expire and just keep accruing endlessly?


    In response to your email, we apologize for any confusion. The Net Meter Summary on your bill shows the running summary of the net meter credits in your kilowatt hour bank. Any usage exported to the Con Edison grid is calculated and applied to usage imported from our grid during months where the solar panels do not cover the total amount of energy used within the bill cycle. Unfortunately, there is no longer an annual payout for new solar customers. The rule was changed on March 9, 2017. This means that any customer that had solar installed after this date is not eligible for an annual payout. The overproduction you have once the year is over, will continue to carry over and will not expire.
  • mjs020294
    Member
    • Nov 2021
    • 76

    #2
    Sounds like you will no longer be paid for over production. Power companies in my area only payout over consumption once a year and they pay you the wholesale price of fuel only not the rate you are charged per KWh.

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    • Cshama
      Member
      • Jan 2021
      • 69

      #3
      Yeah I get that. But I don’t mind because they pay such low rates anyway. The question is do they reset my credits to zero once a year. Looks like they don’t which world be great.

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      • mjs020294
        Member
        • Nov 2021
        • 76

        #4
        According to the notification above it looks like your balance carried forward from year to year. How much surplus are you generating?

        Might be time for a new EV or something that consumes electricity like a hot-tub. It is the reverse of a conservation mentality

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        • bcroe
          Solar Fanatic
          • Jan 2012
          • 5213

          #5
          Looks like with a warmer winter and a lot of cloudless skys, I may hit
          the April reset with 4000 or 5000 KWh surplus. PoCo will keep that for
          free, which does not bother me. There was no extra cost to generate it.
          They are continuing to be my free, infinite capacity, 100% efficient, zero
          maintenance battery.

          In the mean time I am notified the Nyle e8 air-source heat pump will
          be available this spring, with it I hope to use some of that surplus for
          heating water in the future. Bruce Roe

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          • J.P.M.
            Solar Fanatic
            • Aug 2013
            • 15038

            #6
            Originally posted by Cshama
            I contacted Coned to try to change my solar anniversary date and they sent me this in return. Does it mean my solar credits never expire and just keep accruing endlessly?


            In response to your email, we apologize for any confusion. The Net Meter Summary on your bill shows the running summary of the net meter credits in your kilowatt hour bank. Any usage exported to the Con Edison grid is calculated and applied to usage imported from our grid during months where the solar panels do not cover the total amount of energy used within the bill cycle. Unfortunately, there is no longer an annual payout for new solar customers. The rule was changed on March 9, 2017. This means that any customer that had solar installed after this date is not eligible for an annual payout. The overproduction you have once the year is over, will continue to carry over and will not expire.
            I think the answer to your statement lies in the last sentence of the ConEd statement.

            If you're still in doubt, either call them back and get the name of the person who answers your question or call the PUC in your state and ask them. Folks here cannot give you a definitive answer on questions of policy.

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            • Cshama
              Member
              • Jan 2021
              • 69

              #7
              Originally posted by mjs020294
              According to the notification above it looks like your balance carried forward from year to year. How much surplus are you generating?

              Might be time for a new EV or something that consumes electricity like a hot-tub. It is the reverse of a conservation mentality
              I’ve been making everything electric driven- I used to have $10k of energy bills split between oil and the utility. This year it will be maybe $250 in total

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              • azdave
                Moderator
                • Oct 2014
                • 797

                #8
                Originally posted by Cshama
                The question is do they reset my credits to zero once a year. Looks like they don’t which world be great.
                I would much rather keep rolling the credits over and over like that. Hard to believe they would make that offer. My utility zeros out the account and pays me wholesale at the end of April each year, just when I could used the banked energy the most, entering the summer A/C season.

                Dave W. Gilbert AZ
                6.63kW grid-tie owner

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                • heimdm
                  Solar Fanatic
                  • Oct 2019
                  • 180

                  #9
                  In Indiana where we have net metering through 2031, the credits just keep rolling forward with no expiration date.. until you move.

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                  • DanS26
                    Solar Fanatic
                    • Dec 2011
                    • 991

                    #10
                    Originally posted by bcroe
                    Looks like with a warmer winter and a lot of cloudless skys, I may hit
                    the April reset with 4000 or 5000 KWh surplus. PoCo will keep that for
                    free, which does not bother me. There was no extra cost to generate it.
                    They are continuing to be my free, infinite capacity, 100% efficient, zero
                    maintenance battery.

                    In the mean time I am notified the Nyle e8 air-source heat pump will
                    be available this spring, with it I hope to use some of that surplus for
                    heating water in the future. Bruce Roe
                    The Nyle system will do a very good job of using up some of that surplus.

                    Have you looked into ETS systems? These room systems will make any nook in your home a very cozy place.........

                    Steffes Electric Thermal Storage (ETS) Room Heater provides clean, consistent heat for rooms of nearly any size.


                    Store those extra kWh as heat in thermal ceramic bricks. Release the heat at your command. Might as well make your self comfortable rather than giving up those kWh.

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                    • bcroe
                      Solar Fanatic
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 5213

                      #11
                      Originally posted by DanS26
                      Have you looked into ETS systems? These room systems will make any nook in your home a very cozy place.........

                      Steffes Electric Thermal Storage (ETS) Room Heater provides clean, consistent heat for rooms of nearly any size.


                      Store those extra kWh as heat in thermal ceramic bricks. Release the heat at your command. Might as well make your self comfortable rather than giving up those kWh.
                      I do not see an advantage using that here. In this very low indoor winter
                      humidity, l already keep the temp a dozen degrees higher than the green
                      recommendations. Bruce Roe

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                      • peakbagger
                        Solar Fanatic
                        • Jun 2010
                        • 1566

                        #12
                        NH allows me to roll my credit. They offer the option to sell once a year for very low rate. About the only reason it makes sense is if the owner is selling the house as the credit stays with the house.

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