Pv system running watts

[ButchDeal]

i thought i have been given permission. i thought that was understood when they put in the new meter

You should get a letter, also your meter should flash two different values one for delivered and one for consumed.
yours is showing one value and flashing an error for the other. I suspect you do not have permission to operate or that the meter is configured incorrectly.

[vino1982]

today my solar production will be next to nothing. 33 panels covered in snow plus a cloudy day

[vino1982]

since i can only see delivered kwh this is what im going to do... i placed the eyedro clamps back on the main legs... i recorded the current delivered kwh at 915am at 675kwh on my meter... my eyedro shows at 915am 6.33 kwh used thus far today... after some hours i should be able to compare the kwh consumption according to eyedro and according to my meter... the differences if equal prove i am being charged for this mysterious wattage from the PV system. if my eyedro amount is higher than the delivered amount according to the meter then the mysterious PV system wattage is not being charged... i feel that would be a definitive test, what do you think?

[vino1982]

i thought i have been given permission. i thought that was understood when they put in the new meter

[ButchDeal]

My meter only shows accumulated kwh, it does not report live consumed watts.

and you received permission to operate from the utility?
your meter should be showing both used and delivered kwh

[vino1982]

I have attached a screenshot of the monitor i left on each leg of the PV tap in my electrical panel. as you can see i moved the monitor from the 2 main legs of power to the PV taps at 630pm last night. It shows a remarkable steady draw of current from the PV taps from 630pm untill now 530am. In the lower right section of the image you can see that straight line of current draw all night from the PV system. Port A 317 watts... Port B 367 watts... Port A is one tap Port B is the other...

[vino1982]

My meter only shows accumulated kwh, it does not report live consumed watts.

[DanS26]

Oh ok. So the number displayed flashing on the meter is the current usage at that moment? Not a cumulative amount through billing cycle?

You probably have a bi-directional meter....just google the make and model listed on the front of the meter....from there you can get instructions on how to read the meter.....or just call your POCO.

[vino1982]

Oh ok. So the number displayed flashing on the meter is the current usage at that moment? Not a cumulative amount through billing cycle?

[DanS26]

I'm not home at the moment. When I did my initial testing with the eyedro meter (shut everything down except modem) the draw was at 700 watts roughly. I did not test with my amp probe at that time. I will tonight test with amp probe, shut everything else down, and see if I get that double the amount of draw

No, I'm talking about the POCO meter.....the billing meter. A 500 to 700 W load should be obvious on the face of the meter.

[vino1982]

I'm not home at the moment. When I did my initial testing with the eyedro meter (shut everything down except modem) the draw was at 700 watts roughly. I did not test with my amp probe at that time. I will tonight test with amp probe, shut everything else down, and see if I get that double the amount of draw

[DanS26]

They don't give the night time specs on the Q series but I doubt it is within that range.

Yes, Enphase does not disclose night time consumption for the Q series. It would be interesting to find this number.

https://enphase.com/sites/default/fi...s_DS_EN-US.pdf

[DanS26]

OP..what does your POCO meter say when you shut everything down but the solar? Is the load still there?

[vino1982]

I'm concerned to leave it on. A good sunny winter day I make 19kwh. If I have to contend with 8kwh usage on average it wont make out. Unless I shut it off at night, cut it in half. What are we talking about here? Mis information coming from my meter? There seems to be the same draw on each string of panels, when monitored individually. I mean these things are drawing power, right? Equivalent to
your furnace fan spinning 24/7

[ButchDeal]

An ammeter won't tell the Power Factor. A system might have a serious noise filter on the line. That filter
could conduct a lot of REACTIVE power anytime connected, but that costs you nothing at a PF of zero.
The resistive element (PF = one) could be quite small. Bruce Roe

This could be the issue here. it would show up as zero on the grid meter or any good meter with PF and voltage calculations but not the eyedro meter that the OP has or a single leg clamp meter.
I have looked at these "filters" as some partners tried to claim that they saved money. I could find no savings on the systems we looked at but they do try to balance the legs and move power from one leg to the other in a way that shows odd data on an ammeter. I wonder if the Q series themselves are doing this "filtering"