Vivint and First Solar may leave Nevada after PUC votes.

[TimeOrMoney]

PUC in Nevada supposed to vote tomorrow on a proposal that gives NVEnergy most of what it wants. It even phases existing net metering customers on new rates.

[Sunking]

About time.

[TimeOrMoney]

Ok, link broken. Must have been yesterday's headlines.

[TimeOrMoney]

About time.

And you say that why? People who signed up for solar rates previously with be now penalized and maybe never get the promised payback. All kinds of monthly fees only to solar owners. Buy electricity at retail; sell back to Nevada energy for wholesale. How is that good for solar?

[J.P.M.]

And you say that why? People who signed up for solar rates previously with be now penalized and maybe never get the promised payback. All kinds of monthly fees only to solar owners. Buy electricity at retail; sell back to Nevada energy for wholesale. How is that good for solar?

Don't know if it's about time, but it is reality. Knowing that the rules can change is always a risk walking in. Read the fine print. Maybe solar users are grandparented in.

[TimeOrMoney]

Don't know if it's about time, but it is reality. Knowing that the rules can change is always a risk walking in.

Not in proposal. You guys own stock in Berkshire-Hathaway?

[solar pete]

And you say that why? People who signed up for solar rates previously with be now penalized and maybe never get the promised payback. All kinds of monthly fees only to solar owners. Buy electricity at retail; sell back to Nevada energy for wholesale. How is that good for solar?

Well some people really have no interest in solar or should I say the moving forward of the solar industry, these people have vested interests in the status quo, that's life, you just have to recognize it for what it is

[TimeOrMoney]

Well some people really have no interest in solar or should I say the moving forward of the solar industry, these people have vested interests in the status quo, that's life, you just have to recognize it for what it is

What is it you are trying to say? Vested interest in the status quo? The status quo would have preserved the existing tariffs, which were friendly to solar. This change will stop the solar industry in Nevada, not move it forward. And I'm not talking the big guns like First Solar that lease and such. People like myself that will do much of the work ourselves will have trouble making numbers work.

I would have thought on a solar forum, that people would have interest in keeping solar moving forward.

For anyone who is interested, one lawsuit has already been filed to force Governor Sandoval to release phone text records to the PUC he refused to release under the freedom of information act. Another is likely in the works because of today's decision. From the Las Vegas Sun today:

Bryan Miller, president of the Alliance for Solar Choice, said his organization is considering legal action.
“In a similar situation in Wisconsin, the commission acted without evidence and attempted to eliminate the solar industry,” said Miller, also an executive at rooftop solar company Sunrun. “TASC sued and TASC won, and TASC expects to do the same here.”

[Yaryman]

About time.

What? The large utility gets everything they want?

Here is an article about the PUC decision.

http://www.reviewjournal.com/business/energy/puc-official-opposes-rooftop-solar-change-sought-nv-energy

ONCE again, NV Energy is an allowed monopoly for the benefit of both the company and the customer.

Sometimes the people at the top of the large utilities seem to think the company exists solely so they can get a bonus
by screwing of thousands of people. It is not suppose to work that way.

[J.P.M.]

What is it you are trying to say? Vested interest in the status quo? The status quo would have preserved the existing tariffs, which were friendly to solar. This change will stop the solar industry in Nevada, not move it forward. And I'm not talking the big guns like First Solar that lease and such. People like myself that will do much of the work ourselves will have trouble making numbers work.

I would have thought on a solar forum, that people would have interest in keeping solar moving forward.

For anyone who is interested, one lawsuit has already been filed to force Governor Sandoval to release phone text records to the PUC he refused to release under the freedom of information act. Another is likely in the works because of today's decision. From the Las Vegas Sun today:

Bryan Miller, president of the Alliance for Solar Choice, said his organization is considering legal action.
“In a similar situation in Wisconsin, the commission acted without evidence and attempted to eliminate the solar industry,” said Miller, also an executive at rooftop solar company Sunrun. “TASC sued and TASC won, and TASC expects to do the same here.”

To return the insult, do you own stock in a solar company ?

[TimeOrMoney]

What? The large utility gets everything they want?

Here is an article about the PUC decision.

http://www.reviewjournal.com/busines...ught-nv-energy



ONCE again, NV Energy is an allowed monopoly for the benefit of both the company and the customer.

Sometimes the people at the top of the large utilities seem to think the company exists solely so they can get a bonus
by screwing of thousands of people. It is not suppose to work that way.

That article was before the PUC decision, but it passed as is. I'm surprised at the title, which makes it sound positive. They did get rid of a demand provision that would have charged about $14.00/Kwatts--hr for the highest "demand" during peak rates, but left all the rest of the hostile actions.

This battle is much like what happened with cell phones, IMHO. Big energy monopolies do not want to have distributed power, like rooftop solar, as it will kill their monopoly. Similarly, cells phones distributed the money around to the point that local telcos are pretty much dead. Some predict as battery storage gets more affordable(it is), many will go off grid.

[TimeOrMoney]

To return the insult, do you own stock in a solar company ?

Nope

[Sunking]

All kinds of monthly fees only to solar owners. Buy electricity at retail; sell back to Nevada energy for wholesale. How is that good for solar?

Why should the poor and working class pay for your luxury? You can afford it without their help. There is no energy shortage.

Do you work for free?
If you sell stuff how long can you stay in biz if you sell it for what it cost you?

You are not entitled to anything. You paid your money and gambled. You lost, suck it up.

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[TimeOrMoney]

Why should the poor and working class pay for your luxury? You can afford it without their help. There is no energy shortage.

Do you work for free?
If you sell stuff how long can you stay in biz if you sell it for what it cost you?

You are not entitled to anything. You paid your money and gambled. You lost, suck it up.

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You don't read before responding, do you. Judging from your number of posts, it's clear you just post. Shows ignorance. I'm NOT a a rich person. I haven't installed yet. Now I can't afford to. You should take your politics to a political forum, where not actually reading posts you respond to is the norm. I simply tried to post info about what's happening in Nevada. But being a bully admin, (I've seen your posts) you will probably now ban me, like others who may question you. Go ahead. This forum needs a change in character before I'll spend much time here. Hope you enjoy your monopoly in this small pond.

[Yaryman]

You are not entitled to anything. You paid your money and gambled. You lost, suck it up.. .

Your utility company must certainly run different commercials from the ones here in Northern California we get from PG&E.

What is the message provided by your utility? Buy solar then pray and hope we don't change the rules so the CEO of the company can get a bonus.

Here it is solar is Rainbows and Unicorns and we as the benevolent utility want to help make the world a better place.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yVgPrhvwyc