6Kw going in soon in Aliso Viejo

[electriclove]

Thank you Bob!

Sent...

[sensij]

I know SCE says TOU-D-T is good for solar owners, but I would question about that!

Everone is different, but it wont hurt if you do some comparison. Here is my usage and pricing plan

Yeah, based on InsaneOctane's work linked a couple pages ago, and comments in many other forums, it seems the TOU-D-A comes out ahead of TOU-D-T more often for solar owners, despite the less favorable peak hours.

[silversaver]

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Ok... my first day of TOU DT action. Take these numbers at your our risk.... ALL ARE APPROXIMATED!!

From Midnight until 7am, I bought 6 KWH's of power off peak @ $ 0.13 a KWH for a total of $3.12

From 8 am until 11am I generated 10 KWH's of off peak power @ $0.13.. with a value of $1.30

From Noon until 5pm I generated 20 KWH's of peak power @ $0.22.. with a value of $4.40

From 6pm until Midnight, I bought 18 KWH's of off peak power @ $0.13 KWH for $2.34

Total Generated: $5.70
Total Purchased: $3.12

Net Gain : $2.58


Running these same numbers at a standard flat Tier 1 rate of $0.15 a KWH generates these numbers

Total Generated : $4.50
Total Purchased : $3.60
Net Gain : $0.90

I'm sure these numbers are wrong, dont hold me to the nearest penny ( or dime..or quarter!!) but it gives you ( and me) at least an idea of the differences between a standard " Domestic" account, and the "TOU-DT" account...

Time will tell at the end of the month...

Your calculation are correct. That's the usual usage you see for Spring. Starting from July when Summer heat arrives, depends on AC usage, that is the key point. For me, most of the usage is at night time +EV charing, so I am leaning toward TOU-D-A which make more sense to me. Both my Summer (1800kWh/month) and Winter(1400kWh/month) usage are high, and I'm using Spring credit to cover the extra usage. Base on Spring TOU-D-T plan, the peak only pays $0.22 for the first 130% baseline which is about 390kWh). Unlikely you will get pay on over 390kWh@ $0.35 per kWh per month..... but your off peak for Summer/Winter are $0.26 and $0.25(tier 2), both are higher than your Winter credit @0.22. There's possibilty you might run into tier 2 rates @ 0.47 Summer and $0.35 Winter. I know SCE says TOU-D-T is good for solar owners, but I would question about that!

Everone is different, but it wont hurt if you do some comparison. Here is my usage and pricing plan

[Alisobob]

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Ok... my first day of TOU DT action. Take these numbers at your own risk.... ALL ARE APPROXIMATED!!

From Midnight until 7am, I bought 6 KWH's of power off peak @ $ 0.13 a KWH for a total of $3.12

From 8 am until 11am I generated 10 KWH's of off peak power @ $0.13.. with a value of $1.30

From Noon until 5pm I generated 20 KWH's of peak power @ $0.22.. with a value of $4.40

From 6pm until Midnight, I bought 18 KWH's of off peak power @ $0.13 KWH for $2.34

Total Generated: $5.70
Total Purchased: $3.12

Net Gain : $2.58


Running these same numbers at a standard flat Tier 1 rate of $0.15 a KWH generates these numbers

Total Generated : $4.50
Total Purchased : $3.60
Net Gain : $0.90

I'm sure these numbers are wrong, dont hold me to the nearest penny ( or dime..or quarter!!) but it gives you ( and me) at least an idea of the differences between a standard " Domestic" account, and the "TOU-DT" account...

Time will tell at the end of the month...

[Alisobob]

Sent...

[electriclove]

Hi Bob, could please PM me your contact as well? I've been lurking for a while and am ready to take the plunge.

Thanks!

[Alisobob]

Message sent.

Their a great bunch of guys... very straightforward. No B.S.

[takeastep]

I was wrong.... $1.77

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Bob, could you please PM me on who did your install. I am in Corona and those Hot summer months are right around the corner. Thanks for all the posts that you have shared!

[Alisobob]

I was wrong.... $1.77

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[HX_Guy]

Yea.... $1.71 a month to use the wires.

Wow that's crazy cheap!

Smallest I think yo can get out here is around $16/month with 0 net grid usage.

[bcroe]

Bruce what were some on the steps you did to reduce from 300W to 50W?

It was a big project, starting with tracking down all the phantoms, and then
engineering a fix for each. There are still several on my hit list like the transformers
in my garage door openers.

Click on my bcroe, then VIEW PROFILE, then ABOUT ME. Use the link
for PHOTOBUCKET, album ENERGY CONSERVATION, find 6 sub albums.

Bruce Roe

[Alisobob]

Yea.... $1.71 a month to use the wires.

[takeastep]

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I'm sorry if I bore everyone with these little bits and pieces...

If you have paid $3k+ annually for power pre solar... you would be happy too!

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Sounds real good Bob! Is there monthly service charges/connection fees, that SCE charges regardless if you have a negative usage?

[takeastep]

I hope you know how, and approve of, how 1 KW is consumed all night. My entry into energy
conservation started when I noted the meter spinning around (at 300W) while every last
thing was off or not running. The 300 W "phantom" load turned out to be a hundred small
items, most powered by very inefficient "wall wart" supplies. It was reduced to 50W.

Bruce Roe

Bruce what were some on the steps you did to reduce from 300W to 50W?

[J.P.M.]

You might want to consider running your TOU projections in the spreadsheet that member InsaneOctane made available in this post, or share your data with him so that he can look at it for you. He, and others in forums like ours, have found that for systems sized close to 100% offset, TOU-D-A actually generates the largest potential credit that could be spent on additional consumption, although TOU-D-T fares well too.

Or, as noted I believe, a smaller system if T.O.U. is considered at the design stage, provided one is willing to take a chance on future rates and tariffs.