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  • Sunking
    Solar Fanatic
    • Feb 2010
    • 23301

    #46
    Originally posted by monogram
    Hi Matrix,
    Thank you for your advise.[LIST][*]If I set the Boost voltage to 30.2V, will it be too high for 24V batteries bank?[*]If I have enough sun time, does increase Boost Time is a better option for the batteries?[*]How to know if I have enough sun time?
    Battery Hydrometer.


    Originally posted by monogram
    • The batteries are about 2ft below the controller. I don't remember the wire size but I think it's small wire. What is the correct gauge size for controller to 215A batteries?
    What size is the Controller?

    20 to 30 amps = 10 AWG
    40 to 80 amps = 6 AWG

    MSEE, PE

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    • littleharbor
      Solar Fanatic
      • Jan 2016
      • 1998

      #47
      Doubt you have this option on your controller.

      Vent your batteries to the outdoors if not already.

      As I said, use the largest wire you can fit in the controller.

      2.2kw Suntech mono, Classic 200, NEW Trace SW4024

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      • monogram
        Member
        • Mar 2018
        • 77

        #48
        Originally posted by littleharbor
        Doubt you have this option on your controller.
        Yes, my controller does have option to set battery AH. I currently set it to 215AH as battery listed. Do you mean I need to increase that AH number up?

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        • littleharbor
          Solar Fanatic
          • Jan 2016
          • 1998

          #49
          Setting the ah. of your battery doesn't necessarily set ending amps of absorb, er, Boost stage. You already mentioned it's set at 120 minutes. If you can set ending amps it should be 2 % of your ah. rating ie; 4 amps. If you cant do this you might see if changing your battery ah size changes the 120 minutes.
          2.2kw Suntech mono, Classic 200, NEW Trace SW4024

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          • monogram
            Member
            • Mar 2018
            • 77

            #50
            Originally posted by littleharbor
            Setting the ah. of your battery doesn't necessarily set ending amps of absorb, er, Boost stage. You already mentioned it's set at 120 minutes. If you can set ending amps it should be 2 % of your ah. rating ie; 4 amps. If you cant do this you might see if changing your battery ah size changes the 120 minutes.
            I'm lost on this, would you please explain it again for me?

            Since the batteries are inside the house which produced the gas when charging, is it OK for me to have battery 10ft away from controller using solar wire 10AWG ?

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            • Sunking
              Solar Fanatic
              • Feb 2010
              • 23301

              #51
              Litleharbor give up.
              MSEE, PE

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              • monogram
                Member
                • Mar 2018
                • 77

                #52
                If you can set ending amps it should be 2 % of your ah. rating ie; 4 amps. If you cant do this you might see if changing your battery ah size changes the 120 minutes
                Hi Littleharbor,
                I'm lost, would you please explain it in more detail. An example is great.

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                • littleharbor
                  Solar Fanatic
                  • Jan 2016
                  • 1998

                  #53
                  I've tried, as Sunking has told you and tried to explain, himself. All I can say is go back and reread what has already been said. Also go and read the stickies at the beginning of the Off-Grid section. Do your best to understand what you've been told. You have been lucky in keeping your loads reasonable. If your controller has info on load control limits, follow it.
                  Good night.
                  2.2kw Suntech mono, Classic 200, NEW Trace SW4024

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                  • roma_pop
                    Junior Member
                    • Jul 2019
                    • 2

                    #54
                    Hello,
                    I have small question regarding charging flooded lead-acid batteries, I believe in case battery in boost charging mode starts extremely gassing then need to reduce boost charging time and it's mean that battery is full of charge (SOC about 100%), I'm wrong please?

                    Thanks in advance

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                    • Mike90250
                      Moderator
                      • May 2009
                      • 16020

                      #55
                      Originally posted by roma_pop
                      Hello,
                      I have small question regarding charging flooded lead-acid batteries, I believe in case battery in boost charging mode starts extremely gassing then need to reduce boost charging time and it's mean that battery is full of charge (SOC about 100%), I'm wrong please?

                      Thanks in advance
                      We need to speak on common terms. "Boost" is a marketing term.
                      Please read this page, and study the chart
                      Our controllers are designed for Lead Acid batteries which were the first rechargeable battery ever built & the most common rechargeable battery.

                      and then we will be able to use common terms to get the answers to your questions.


                      Common terms for stages:
                      1 = Bulk
                      2 = Absorb (most gassing happens toward the end of this stage)
                      3 = Float
                      4 = monthly Equalize cycle

                      MS_charge_stages.png
                      Powerfab top of pole PV mount (2) | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||
                      || Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
                      || VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A

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                      • roma_pop
                        Junior Member
                        • Jul 2019
                        • 2

                        #56
                        Originally posted by Mike90250

                        We need to speak on common terms. "Boost" is a marketing term.
                        Is that mean "Boost" (marketing term) including both bulk and absorb stages?

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                        • Mike90250
                          Moderator
                          • May 2009
                          • 16020

                          #57
                          Read the link I posted about charging protocol. Boost is a meaningless word. The 3 stages of charge are Bulk, Absorb & Float. Equalization is a remediation condition, not a "charge".
                          Powerfab top of pole PV mount (2) | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||
                          || Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
                          || VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A

                          solar: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Solar
                          gen: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Lister

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                          • Dayrobber
                            Member
                            • Jul 2019
                            • 40

                            #58
                            I just read your Battery/Charge Controller stages. I realized my inverters over voltage setting is 14.4. My CC needed to be reset. What a weight off my shoulders. Thanks again. Dayrobber out. Later.

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