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  • Sgtnarc1
    Member
    • Sep 2018
    • 47

    PV connector compatability

    Getting ready to buy 40 JA Solar 385w panels. When reading the PDF it says it uses QC-4 connectors. (JAM72S01-385/PR-Q (1500v) Connector type QC4.10-35. I know that I am going to need some extra connectors for when I need to extend the strings to a combiner box. I cannot find any information about other connectors being compatible. The only thing I find is it says not to mix brands of connectors. "Just because it fits does not make it right".

    If I cut off the QC-4 connectors and replace it with the more common MC-4 connectors,I think I would void the panel warranty. So, as not to void the warranty can I open the PV junction box on the panel and just replace the 2 wires and then if the panel had a problem just replace the original wires.

    Anyone have any thoughts as where to buy QC-4 connectors or their compatibility with other connectors.
    Last edited by Sgtnarc1; 09-03-2019, 09:17 AM.
  • Mike90250
    Moderator
    • May 2009
    • 16020

    #2
    Generally, the PV panel warranty requires the original connectors be intact, so don't cut them off.

    Or look at other panel brands that use standard connectors if you can't find QC-4 at the usual places
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    • foo1bar
      Solar Fanatic
      • Aug 2014
      • 1833

      #3
      Originally posted by Sgtnarc1
      Getting ready to buy 40 JA Solar 385w panels. When reading the PDF it says it uses QC-4 connectors. I know that I am going to need some extra connectors for when I need to extend the strings to a combiner box. I cannot find any information about other connectors being compatible.
      Does the PDF for these panels say "MC4 compatible"?

      The PDF I found for JA Solar JAM72S01 365-385/PR says "MC4 compatible(1000V)" on the PDF I see for it.
      So IF you're less than 1000V, you should be OK to use MC4 *IF* that's the model you're using.

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      • Sgtnarc1
        Member
        • Sep 2018
        • 47

        #4
        Foo1bar I should have put in the complete listing for the panel. It is JAM72S01-385/PR-Q (1500v) Connector type QC4.10-35. I have will edit the original post.
        Thanks for the replying

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        • Ampster
          Solar Fanatic
          • Jun 2017
          • 3649

          #5
          One Google query suggests that QC4 is a brand name and MC4 is a model name. Some pictures look similar.
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          • foo1bar
            Solar Fanatic
            • Aug 2014
            • 1833

            #6
            Originally posted by Ampster
            One Google query suggests that QC4 is a brand name and MC4 is a model name. Some pictures look similar.
            QC4 and MC4 are both a brand name and model name.
            H4 is another.
            None of them is a generic term for the connector. Although MC4 is kind of like "Kleenex" being used as a term for facial tissue. (not truly generic, but sometimes used in casual conversation as such)

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            • Sgtnarc1
              Member
              • Sep 2018
              • 47

              #7
              Ok, just a little confused. The panel PDF Spec.'s has two type of connectors based on voltage. It reads as, "Connector....MC4 compatible (1000V) QC 4.10-35 (1500V), The panels that I will be getting are rated 1500V. Will it be ok to use the MC4 for the 1500V panel. I have a call into the supplier and they are checking on the compatibility issue.

              I always like to get another prospective from this Forum.

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              • foo1bar
                Solar Fanatic
                • Aug 2014
                • 1833

                #8
                Originally posted by Sgtnarc1
                Ok, just a little confused. The panel PDF Spec.'s has two type of connectors based on voltage. It reads as, "Connector....MC4 compatible (1000V) QC 4.10-35 (1500V), The panels that I will be getting are rated 1500V. Will it be ok to use the MC4 for the 1500V panel. I have a call into the supplier and they are checking on the compatibility issue.

                I always like to get another prospective from this Forum.
                How I would interpret that is "If you use QC4 connectors, you can use this in a system at up to 1500V. If you use MC4 connectors you can use this in a system at up to 1000V".
                What is your max DC voltage going to be? Is this going to be a string setup?

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                • Sgtnarc1
                  Member
                  • Sep 2018
                  • 47

                  #9
                  Yes, it is a 4 string setup with 2 SMA Sunny Boy 7.7 inverters and each string below 600V.

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                  • Sgtnarc1
                    Member
                    • Sep 2018
                    • 47

                    #10
                    Just found a company online that sells the QC4 connectors for $3.95/pair. A little expensive but I won't have any compatibility issues.

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                    • foo1bar
                      Solar Fanatic
                      • Aug 2014
                      • 1833

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Sgtnarc1
                      Just found a company online that sells the QC4 connectors for $3.95/pair. A little expensive but I won't have any compatibility issues.
                      The documentation already says they're MC4 compatible when used for up to 1000V.
                      So if you were using MC4, you wouldn't have compatibility issues.

                      Whatever connector you use, make sure that when you are crimping them on that you're doing it properly - using appropriate tools and getting the secure connection you need.

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                      • Sgtnarc1
                        Member
                        • Sep 2018
                        • 47

                        #12
                        After reading a lot of articles on compatibility and different manufacturing processes of different connectors I will get the QC4. Anyhow, which crimpers do you recommend. I know that Rennsteig makes great crimpers and if I was doing this for a living I would pay the extra money.

                        As I will have about a 10 connectors to crimp, I just want something that will do a good job.

                        Thanks

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