Change like the TV cost $4367.97 and you gave the cashier $5462.31 how much should you get back change $1094.34 if so that is why I don't complain when someone hacks the bank system people invest way too much trust in the banks or the voter is screwed because they made the change to remove ballot initiative stripping most areas of voters right to petition out unjust laws by pushing a issue to a vote.
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An please don't jump me on my description of how a reactor works I know I am wrong with how the rod heat up. I thought that you can't make more energy with less energy. the whole thing is mind boggling to me.Comment
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No problem. A nuclear reactor gets energy by transforming one isotope of one element (the nucleus part) to a different isotope and element. The new element is more stable and hence has less available energy stored in the strong nuclear force. The difference in energy goes into gamma and particle radiation which in turn gets converted into heat.
The thorium itself is just another kind of nuclear fuel, one that is not on its own weaponizable. But the byproducts of the reaction are weaponizable, so the "leftovers" need to be strictly controlled.
And regardless of the fuel, you are not going to have a nuclear reactor, with its shielding and thermal power conversion machinery, in your home or car any time soon. If ever.SunnyBoy 3000 US, 18 BP Solar 175B panels.Comment
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That's what I meant when I said there is no practical way to make power with Thorium - for the individual. You aren't going to have your own nuclear reactor. Safety is a priority when selecting fuels - look at the issues with commercializing hydrogen powered vehicles.Comment
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Is it possible to mix gases like methane and hydrogen in order to make it easier to store the hydrogen or add a carbon atom to the hydrogen and make methane? I ask becuase I heard it explained once as hydrogen is most happy when it has 4 hydrogen bonded to 1 carbon but that would be methane at that point and easier to store.Comment
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Is it possible to mix gases like methane and hydrogen in order to make it easier to store the hydrogen or add a carbon atom to the hydrogen and make methane? I ask becuase I heard it explained once as hydrogen is most happy when it has 4 hydrogen bonded to 1 carbon but that would be methane at that point and easier to store.
Do you know what Natural Gas is? Methane See any problem with that. You are saying take 2 units of Natural Gas to make 1 unit of Hydrogen. So already you have wasted 50% of your energy you started with Natural Gas to make synthetic Natural Gas.
But that is not the end of waste. Now you have to convert or combine the hydrogen and carbon. It can be done with the Sabatier process. You now need a source of Nickel Silver which is expensive and wasteful. Again you have huge energy losses in the conversion You are now wasting 10 units of energy to make 1 unit of energy.
Think of it this way. You give me $10 today, and tomorrow I give you $1 back and call it an even trade. Do want any part of that deal? Of course not. So what in effect you are doing is take 10 units of Natural Gas to make 1 unit of Natural Gas. Natural Gas is super abundant and dirt cheap.
Remember hydrogen is not a fuel source. It is a Carrier of energy with huge energy losses. Any Carrier of energy is a multiple of the source fuel used to make it. In this case 10 units of NG to make 1 unit of NG. Not only do you waste 90% of your source fuel, it cost more than 10 times what the source fuel NG cost you to make NG gas from. See any problem with that?
Let's cut to the chase. A Hydrogen economy is bankruptcy and DOA.
Now a fun Factoid for you or Q&A.
Q. What is Hydrogen converted to when it burns? In other words what are hydrogen ashes after it burns?
A. WATER
There is a much better and cheaper way to make Methane aka NG. Biogas, or Sewer Gas. In fact several cities make natural gas to generate electricity. They take your garbage, let it rot to make Biogas. When you fart, it is Methane aka NG. Enviro wacko's want cattle destroyed because cattle produces a chit load of Methane which is a green house gas.MSEE, PEComment
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Is it possible to mix gases like methane and hydrogen in order to make it easier to store the hydrogen or add a carbon atom to the hydrogen and make methane? I ask becuase I heard it explained once as hydrogen is most happy when it has 4 hydrogen bonded to 1 carbon but that would be methane at that point and easier to store.
Are you aware of the difference between a chemical compound and a mixture?SunnyBoy 3000 US, 18 BP Solar 175B panels.Comment
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Where are you going to get the hydrogen? It takes a chit load of energy and money to make hydrogen as we have already discussed. Th emost efficient way to make Hydrogen is from Natural Gas.
Do you know what Natural Gas is? Methane See any problem with that. You are saying take 2 units of Natural Gas to make 1 unit of Hydrogen. So already you have wasted 50% of your energy you started with Natural Gas to make synthetic Natural Gas.
But that is not the end of waste. Now you have to convert or combine the hydrogen and carbon. It can be done with the Sabatier process. You now need a source of Nickel Silver which is expensive and wasteful. Again you have huge energy losses in the conversion You are now wasting 10 units of energy to make 1 unit of energy.
Think of it this way. You give me $10 today, and tomorrow I give you $1 back and call it an even trade. Do want any part of that deal? Of course not. So what in effect you are doing is take 10 units of Natural Gas to make 1 unit of Natural Gas. Natural Gas is super abundant and dirt cheap.
Remember hydrogen is not a fuel source. It is a Carrier of energy with huge energy losses. Any Carrier of energy is a multiple of the source fuel used to make it. In this case 10 units of NG to make 1 unit of NG. Not only do you waste 90% of your source fuel, it cost more than 10 times what the source fuel NG cost you to make NG gas from. See any problem with that?
Let's cut to the chase. A Hydrogen economy is bankruptcy and DOA.
Now a fun Factoid for you or Q&A.
Q. What is Hydrogen converted to when it burns? In other words what are hydrogen ashes after it burns?
A. WATER
There is a much better and cheaper way to make Methane aka NG. Biogas, or Sewer Gas. In fact several cities make natural gas to generate electricity. They take your garbage, let it rot to make Biogas. When you fart, it is Methane aka NG. Enviro wacko's want cattle destroyed because cattle produces a chit load of Methane which is a green house gas.
I looked up Sabatier process a few days ago and although I would believe it would work I don't feel it would be practical. I have a hydrogen generator on hand at least the plates what is left of it the vessel ruptured last year I got it from a canadian distributor. I have also heard on a man in I think it was brazil who made one and was posting videos up until a year ago that ran itself. I know how crazy that sounds but most really smart people sound crazy. He would always ramble on about how the U.S. government had a oil contract keeping him from pattening his hydrogen generator. Stanley meyers had a pretty interesting setup. But the guy from Brazil set up ran off of sea water looked like a car battery and had the same coil system as meyer did. but all these are just pennies in the well of progress. No one ever talks about how many times Edison failed at the light bulb. Even though Edison was smart you never really hear about Nikola Tesla. My point is some things don't seem practically at this point in our time here but you never know. Think of the possibility of sea water it consist of a lot of different thing hydrogen, oxygen, gold, salt, mercury.
You take a hydrogen generator and make two things oxygen we are cut trees every day, hydrogen has a use but is a pain to transport or contain, but turn it into methane we have a whole new thing to play with. Then you have these byproducts also to play with gold, salt, mercury. the salt can be put back. I don't know what we could do with mercury nasty stuff you ask me but removing it from the sea would be a good thing, then comes gold that you don't have to mine for. then you chlorine, sulfur, magnesium, calcium, and potassium left over most of which you can use for fertilizer all else fails.
Now you probably want to know where am I going to get the energy to run said hydrogen generator wind and solar. Wind has to have a dump which makes heat. Heat = waste so why not throw a hydrogen generator in place of the dump now your efficy just kicked up a notch. but then comes the problem of how to store the hydrogen, we have hydrocarbon and methane. I my eyes methane is more practical due to existing pipelines and a system area setup to handle it. hydrocarbon is mostly a flop it is easier and cheaper to transport water.Comment
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One of the arguments used in favor of hydrogen fuel systems (leaving out for the moment the question of how to get the hydrogen) is that the only combustion product is H2O, water. If you "store" the hydrogen in the form of methane, then the primary combustion products are H2O and CO2. That is still better than the hydrogen to carbon ratio in oil, and, of course, far worse than the zero ratio in burning coal. But it is not the same as burning pure hydrogen.
Are you aware of the difference between a chemical compound and a mixture?Comment
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He is either a fool or con artist. The HHO scam has been around for decades. There are many scientific organizations that offer many millions of dollars to the first person who can produce such a working prototype. The rewards have been around for many decades. Not one single person has done it. To do so means the law of Thermal Dynamics and Conservation of Energy would have to be rewritten. Not going to happen as it is impossible.MSEE, PEComment
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He is either a fool or con artist. The HHO scam has been around for decades. There are many scientific organizations that offer many millions of dollars to the first person who can produce such a working prototype. The rewards have been around for many decades. Not one single person has done it. To do so means the law of Thermal Dynamics and Conservation of Energy would have to be rewritten. Not going to happen as it is impossible.Comment
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Who is going to pay for it? You the customer in the form of higher prices is who. Like hydrogen, it is a net energy loss, and tossing money away to do that. There is nothing to be gained except make enviro whacko's happy like the POTUS keeping his promise to punish US citizens.MSEE, PEComment
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just like septic tanks and livestock factories pumping methane into the ozone. why not make a law were they all have to pipe it back into the system or a holding tank for pickup.Comment
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Dump loads are 100% efficient at turning electricity into heat. You can't improve on that
Yes they make good heat but what good is that in the summer other than a water heater.
Many people do this - capture methane from sewage and landfills and use it locally. However if you make it a law, you will likely end up wasting far more energy than you save through horrendously impractical and energy-wasting capture systems.Comment
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