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  • charles2,david000k
    Solar Fanatic
    • Oct 2015
    • 161

    Thorium questions?

    Can Thorium be used as a power source?
  • Living Large
    Solar Fanatic
    • Nov 2014
    • 910

    #2
    Originally posted by charles2,david000k
    Can Thorium be used as a power source?
    Have you tried researching on the internet? I spent 15 minutes - there is information out there - doesn't sound promising (edit - practical) depending on what your application is, due to it being radioactive.

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    • Sunking
      Solar Fanatic
      • Feb 2010
      • 23301

      #3
      Yes. When exposed to neutrons transforms to U233 which is then split to generate energy. That turns into U235 and then into Plutonium. Thorium is the seed fuel used in Breeder reactors where one reactor makes the fuel for the next higher order reactor.
      MSEE, PE

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      • charles2,david000k
        Solar Fanatic
        • Oct 2015
        • 161

        #4
        Originally posted by Sunking
        Yes. When exposed to neutrons transforms to U233 which is then split to generate energy. That turns into U235 and then into Plutonium. Thorium is the seed fuel used in Breeder reactors where one reactor makes the fuel for the next higher order reactor.
        So once it is turn to Plutonium can you recycle the Plutonium back to Thorium?

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        • Sunking
          Solar Fanatic
          • Feb 2010
          • 23301

          #5
          Originally posted by charles2,david000k
          So once it is turn to Plutonium can you recycle the Plutonium back to Thorium?
          No you can use Plutonium as fuel. You really need to get educated and do your own research.
          MSEE, PE

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          • charles2,david000k
            Solar Fanatic
            • Oct 2015
            • 161

            #6
            Originally posted by Sunking
            No you can use Plutonium as fuel. You really need to get educated and do your own research.
            That is kinda why I am here trying to educate myself. I don't want to know everything just some basic I guess. I keep seeing this on Thorium basically revolving around this youtube video claiming breakthroughs in Thorium.



            An I am trying to find out if these guys are correct in what they are telling people.

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            • J.P.M.
              Solar Fanatic
              • Aug 2013
              • 14926

              #7
              Originally posted by charles2,david000k
              That is kinda why I am here trying to educate myself. I don't want to know everything just some basic I guess. I keep seeing this on Thorium basically revolving around this youtube video claiming breakthroughs in Thorium.



              An I am trying to find out if these guys are correct in what they are telling people.
              Off topic: I have trouble understanding want passes for education these days.

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              • Living Large
                Solar Fanatic
                • Nov 2014
                • 910

                #8
                Originally posted by charles2,david000k
                That is kinda why I am here trying to educate myself. I don't want to know everything just some basic I guess. I keep seeing this on Thorium basically revolving around this youtube video claiming breakthroughs in Thorium.

                An I am trying to find out if these guys are correct in what they are telling people.
                What is your goal? Power your car, your house, the world?

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                • charles2,david000k
                  Solar Fanatic
                  • Oct 2015
                  • 161

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Living Large
                  What is your goal? Power your car, your house, the world?
                  More or less just fed up with seeing thing on the net and not knowing what is true and false. See I am part of what some would call the NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND PROGRAM. Basicly we were not educated properly and just passed through in order to get numbers. So I was robbed of a education! I remember days when the science teacher slept in her office all day. There main goal in my school was a class called (life management) Which basically taught you how to balance a checkbook, cooking, and stuff of that nature. So when some says our education system is trash it is true.

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                  • Sunking
                    Solar Fanatic
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 23301

                    #10
                    Originally posted by charles2,david000k
                    More or less just fed up with seeing thing on the net and not knowing what is true and false. See I am part of what some would call the NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND PROGRAM. Basicly we were not educated properly and just passed through in order to get numbers. So I was robbed of a education! I remember days when the science teacher slept in her office all day. There main goal in my school was a class called (life management) Which basically taught you how to balance a checkbook, cooking, and stuff of that nature. So when some says our education system is trash it is true.
                    That is a shame. But all is not lost as you just took the first step out of the darkness. How old are you? FWIW your parents, and all parents of your school are partly responsible. They allowed and approved it to happen. It is not too late.

                    Although you might not be able to obtain a professional degree, success does not depend on that. It is what is in your heart that makes you successful. There are millions of millionaires without a highschool education. All successful people have one thing in common. They are very passionate and tireless in their pursuit of happiness. You have to find that one thing you love to do and do not consider it to be work. It maybe hard to understand but successful people work their asses off but never work a single day in thief life. Here are a few names you will know:

                    Robert De Niro (actor)
                    Vidal Sassoon (orphan and hair stylist)
                    Kirk Kerkorian (Las Vegas Realestate and Financial Investor)
                    Peter Jackson (photographer and producer. He produced the Lord of the Rings movies)
                    Jessica Simpson. A great pair of (.)(.) and legs.
                    Larry Flint. Porno King
                    Billy Joel (musician and song writer)
                    Richard Carmona (US Surgeon General, yep a doctor)
                    Don Imus (disc jockey)
                    Sidney Poitier (actor)
                    Jay-Z and 50-cent (no comment)
                    George Foreman (boxer, salesman, and reverend)
                    Simon Cowell (billionaire talent agent and producer of American Idol and a dozen other shows)
                    David Murdock (billionaire founder of Dole Foods. Started selling pineapples on a cart. )
                    Richard Branson (one of the richest men in the world)
                    Jim Clark (another billionaire founder of Netscape, Shutterfly, and movie producer)
                    Bobby Flay, Graham Elliot and a thousand of other chefs owner operators slinging burgers.

                    So just figure out what you are good at doing and passionate about is all it takes. It is super easy to fail and blame someone. We all choose our destiny. So quit feeling sorry for yourself and blaming others. I am certain you can rise above it if you just try. You are in full control of your destiny.

                    Take this with you by Dave Ramsey:

                    “If you will live like no one else, later you can live like no one else.”

                    It means work your butt off today, save money, and live below your means today. Then later you can retire at a young age and live in great comfort and luxury. If you are lik eme, you never ever really retire as you enjoy what you do so much you will do it for free and give it all away.
                    MSEE, PE

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                    • Living Large
                      Solar Fanatic
                      • Nov 2014
                      • 910

                      #11
                      Originally posted by charles2,david000k
                      More or less just fed up with seeing thing on the net and not knowing what is true and false. See I am part of what some would call the NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND PROGRAM. Basicly we were not educated properly and just passed through in order to get numbers. So I was robbed of a education! I remember days when the science teacher slept in her office all day. There main goal in my school was a class called (life management) Which basically taught you how to balance a checkbook, cooking, and stuff of that nature. So when some says our education system is trash it is true.
                      I spent half my working life as an engineer, half as a high school teacher. I taught mostly at independent schools, but had some experience in public schools. At one of the public schools, the students in one class were learning how to make change. A colleague informed me the same students "learned" making change year after year. I never quite understood that. Based on my experience shopping, there are far too many young people who never do learn how to make change - but if you can figure out how to patent an invention later I guess that more than makes up.

                      Learning how to cook is a useful skill - one that one would hope is learned in the home. Chemistry I found to be the toughest subject, physics my favorite. You were part of No Child Left Behind - I was part of New Math. I liked New Math, but it was scrapped as a failure, like adoption of the metric system. Go figure.

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                      • inetdog
                        Super Moderator
                        • May 2012
                        • 9909

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Living Large
                        ... Based on my experience shopping, there are far too many young people who never do learn how to make change - but if figure out how to patent an invention later I guess that more than makes up....
                        There is a joke about the adacemically challenged high schooler, voted least likely to succeed by his class, who showed up at the tenth reunion in a chauffeur driven limousine.
                        When asked how he had gotten so rich he replied:
                        "Actually it was pretty easy, I just found something I could make for $1 and sell for $3. It is amazing how fast that 2% profit adds up."
                        SunnyBoy 3000 US, 18 BP Solar 175B panels.

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                        • Living Large
                          Solar Fanatic
                          • Nov 2014
                          • 910

                          #13
                          Originally posted by inetdog
                          There is a joke about the adacemically challenged high schooler, voted least likely to succeed by his class, who showed up at the tenth reunion in a chauffeur driven limousine.
                          When asked how he had gotten so rich he replied:
                          "Actually it was pretty easy, I just found something I could make for $1 and sell for $3. It is amazing how fast that 2% profit adds up."
                          That's outstanding. Had not heard that one. Perfect.

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                          • Sunking
                            Solar Fanatic
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 23301

                            #14
                            Originally posted by inetdog
                            There is a joke about the adacemically challenged high schooler, voted least likely to succeed by his class, who showed up at the tenth reunion in a chauffeur driven limousine.
                            When asked how he had gotten so rich he replied:
                            "Actually it was pretty easy, I just found something I could make for $1 and sell for $3. It is amazing how fast that 2% profit adds up."
                            That is what they teach today. Another version is the two Jews outside their tailor shops. One is super busy, and the other is slow. Punch line is a bit different Abe's sells suits below cost and sales are going crazy. Ben ask how does he make a profit. Abe says I make up for it in volume.
                            MSEE, PE

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                            • charles2,david000k
                              Solar Fanatic
                              • Oct 2015
                              • 161

                              #15
                              Thats is kinda funny I'm 31 and retired at 26 spent all my money although I was kinda smart about it bought land built a home and am now debt free. I made a lot of my money the same way sell in volume and undercut everyone else. School did one of those placement test on me once and it said I would be a engineer or a marrian macainic. Just so happens I really like to work on cars I actually use to do it for free for a lot of people just because I loved it so much but that stopped because people always like to say the mechanic messed their car up when it is just preventative maintenance. I could rebuild motor in my sleep. Heck I did a job the other day the guy was quoted 16 hours at the dealership I had it done in under 7 hour but it really was not all that much work really just 2cv axles, 4 ball joints, tie rods, and the drag link. It's getting it all lined back up with no machine that's a pain. But I have no true training just what I picked up by doing what I am here. I started working when I was 16. I actually took a job at a goodwill once for a dollar an hour no joke back in like 2000 I was almost 18 at the time. My best paid job for me I made 30 an hour but that was dealing with asbestos mold remediation and nasty junk like that. I made 1200 week before tax paid out 125 for rent on the ****tyis little run down shack I could find and saved the hell out my money. I like science, biology, mechanics, and like to make people think. I been taking every thing I can apart since I could hold a screwdriver. hows this for a joke some of you are grumpy when you have not had your 3.14 for the night. haha! This whole Thorium thing is because I am interested in a power source that is safer than uranium or plutonium that you can handle and is not weaponizable. From my understanding of a reactor the fuel rod is heated in a reaction that rod keeps the heat making more energy that energy is then used to heat liquid in order to heat another liquid which is water that water turns to steam and runs a series of steam turbine from high to low pressure. The smoke you see coming from the stack is not smoke but steam from a cooling system. From that video I posted they say you can handle Thorium, plutonium and uranium we use in weapons. I also like the ideal of the neodymium motor but think most if not all are fake. Now if there was a SAFE way of using Thorium in a home or automobile setting to make power that would be interesting.

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