Would you buy if offered Battery Bank?

[Sunking]

I am trying to let people know that battery banks can be cheaper and can last over 15 years. Right now I am building one that is 3000ah which will power my home for the whole night for $10k. I'm using the same type of batteries I used in my 600ah bank for the past 6 years. I don't use lead acid batteries or solar batteries. I will give my battery bank 15 years before I have to replace it.

Thanks for that, now we know you are full of crap.

[Sunking]

MPPT does extend the life of a battery bank. It does so many things behind the scenes that it is not worth my time trying to explain it to someone who doesn't understand it. You need to do your research into MPPT before opening your mouth..

LOL and thank you. How many years did it take for you to be so stupid?

[Sunking]

I am a certified electrician and electronics technician.

Now we know you are a liar. There is no such thing as a certified electrician. What ever technician certificates you may or may not hold are worthless pieces of paper.

To be an Electrician requires a License. If you were a Sparky, you would know that.

[DanKegel]

Now we know you are a liar. There is no such thing as a certified electrician.

May I direct you to http://www.dir.ca.gov/dlse/ecu/electricaltrade.html which says

Electrician Certification Program
Existing law requires that persons performing work as electrician under a C-10 licensed contractor be certified..."

[Mike90250]

The whole context of the law is :

Existing law requires that persons performing work as electrician under a C-10 licensed contractor be certified pursuant to certification standards established by the Division of Labor Standards Enforcement. “Electricians” is defined as all persons who engage in the connection of electrical devices for electrical contractors licensed pursuant to Section 7058 of the Business and Profession Code, specifically, contractors classified as electrical contractors in the Contractors State License Board Rules and Regulations [Labor Code § 108 (c)].

In english it says "If a C-10 contractor does not hire a licensed electrical contractor, he can put his C-10 lic on the line and hire a person who is merely "certified"..

But Certified cannot work a job by themselves, they have to work under a Licensed contractor who is supposed to supervise them.

[DanKegel]

The whole context of the law is :
In english it says "If a C-10 contractor does not hire a licensed electrical contractor, he can put his C-10 lic on the line and hire a person who is merely "certified"..
But Certified cannot work a job by themselves, they have to work under a Licensed contractor who is supposed to supervise them.

In the interest of civility and accuracy, though, do you agree that it was incorrect for anyone to claim there's not such thing as a certified electrician?

[J.P.M.]

In the interest of civility and accuracy, though, do you agree that it was incorrect for anyone to claim there's not such thing as a certified electrician?

Screw civility. At this point, seems more of a legal question than one of politeness/civility. If so, and if I had any remaining concerns about accuracy, I'd consult an attorney knowledgeable in such areas for a legal opinion about the meaning of the section of the legal code as quoted, and call it done/stick a fork in it.

[DanKegel]

Screw civility. At this point, seems more of a legal question than one of politeness/civility. If so, and if I had any remaining concerns about accuracy, I'd consult an attorney knowledgeable in such areas for a legal opinion about the meaning of the section of the legal code as quoted, and call it done/stick a fork in it.

Comic sans or no, saying "screw civility" is probably not good for the tone of the board.

All I'm saying, is it sure looks like you can get certified as an electrician in California, and there are even jobs advertised for certified electricians ( http://www.indeed.com/q-Certified-El...rnia-jobs.html ). I think SK owes the OP an apology, in the interest of civility.

I'm not saying SK should back down -- just saying it's good form to acknowledge it when you say something factually wrong (e.g. "There is no such thing as a certified electrician"). But I understand that acknowledging one's misstatements might not fit in with the scorched-earth style of debate popular with some here.

[Mike90250]

This is so annoying, but I'm not going to look up "Section 7058" to see exactly who is what. And that will vary from state to state.

The point is Certified is not the same as being Licensed, which is a higher standard.

[J.P.M.]

Comic sans or no, saying "screw civility" is probably not good for the tone of the board.

All I'm saying, is it sure looks like you can get certified as an electrician in California, and there are even jobs advertised for certified electricians ( http://www.indeed.com/q-Certified-El...rnia-jobs.html ). I think SK owes the OP an apology, in the interest of civility.

As usual, take what you want, or in this case, lighten up and appreciate the attempt at some ironic humor. Scrap the rest. (or put it where the sun don't shine ).

[Raul]

I was curious if the OP would like to share the recipe of that mighty battery that can be guaranteed for 15 years ...

[SunEagle]

I was curious if the OP would like to share the recipe of that mighty battery that can be guaranteed for 15 years ...

My guess is that it would have to be Lithium based chemistry or the OP would not be able to claim a discharge down to 20%. Also since a cooling system was mentioned again Lithium chemistry comes to mind.

As for lasting 15 years. Well the jury is still out on that matter.

[SunEagle]

Comic sans or no, saying "screw civility" is probably not good for the tone of the board.

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Comic sans is our way of being sarcastic. Even I have made statements that could be considered demeaning but I was trying to be funny.

I don't care much for being politically correct.

[DanKegel]

Nor I. But I don't think being civil equates to political correctness.

[jflorey2]

I was curious if the OP would like to share the recipe of that mighty battery that can be guaranteed for 15 years ...

I am guessing it contains lithium, iron and phosphorous . . . .

[SunEagle]

I am guessing it contains lithium, iron and phosphorous . . . .

Unless it is using the new "flow" liquid battery chemistry. Although I have not seen any solid life time stated for that tech. But who knows maybe the new mousetrap is just around the corner.