washing machine off solar?

[russ]

Forget your imaginary "big stick" and don't get carried away with statements that are incorrect - such as why passenger car diesel engines are rare in the US - on that point you are wrong - very wrong.

[ChrisOlson]

Forget your imaginary "big stick" and don't get carried away with statements that are incorrect - such as why passenger car diesel engines are rare in the US - on that point you are wrong - very wrong.

Russ - for the final time on this topic - no. You can look it up. The current requirements for diesel fueled passenger cars and light trucks in the US are identical to the Euro 5 standard currently in effect. With the exception of CO2. The EC standards limits CO2 while US EPA doesn't directly. The US has the Corporate Fleet Fuel Economy standard which does not directly regulate CO2 emissions like it does in Europe since 2007. Prior to that, in Europe, there was a voluntary ACEA agreement and it did not work.

I told you this yesterday - the standards are the same in Europe as here - with EC standards either being in line with, or more stringent (due to the CO2 requirement in Europe), than US EPA.

In the US CARB announced CO2 restrictions and that is being fought in federal court as we speak.

Anybody trying to blame EPA is barking up the wrong tree. Whether or not a European manufacturer decides to test under FTP-75 to certify a vehicle for sale in the US depends on whether or not they feel a market exists that makes it financially feasible for export to the US. At present there are some, like the Audi TDI, that are sold here. But due to cost they are a really hard sell for auto dealers. In the past we have had everything from the Ford Escort diesel to the Dodge D100 pickups with small foreign diesels. Dealers could not sell them. People won't buy them. The market determines this, and historically diesel passenger cars in the US have been a dismal failure in the sales dept. Even when GM strapped flat combustion chamber heads to the Olds 350 so they could squirt diesel fuel into it, and tried to sell it - it ended up being a dismal failure not only from a reliability standpoint, but also from a sales standpoint.
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Chris

[West Texas Bound]

What do you do for bath soap? My wife says dishwater is good for the plants (and they seem to do really well on it). She uses some stuff called "Dishmate" that is supposed to not have toxic stuff in it for both dishes and clothes. Most bath and laundry soaps have toxic chemicals in them that are not good for the plants (or for people for that matter), according to her. I've never really looked into it, though, as that's her department.
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Chris

Chris my wife and make our own laundry detergent and is easy get 2 bars of pure soap ,borax ,and armor hammer washing soap 2 gallons of water
you can experiment with recipes.

2 bars of soap grated with a cheese grater
2 cups borax
1 cup washing soap

Boil one gallon of water add shredded bar soap stir until melted
add all other ingredients use other gallon to add to get that liquid detergent constancy all safe and natrual

[russ]

Russ - for the final time on this topic - no. You can look it up.

Try soot or particulate emissions - you claim no difference.

[Sunking]

In the US CARB announced CO2 restrictions and that is being fought in federal court as we speak.

Anybody trying to blame EPA is barking up the wrong tree.

It has nothing to do with CO2. Diesel engines emits far lower CO2 than gasoline. The issue is Particulate Emissions, higher fuel taxes on diesel, and 50 state emission standards especially CA and NY. 5 states have banned sales of diesel vehicles.

[Mike90250]

OK guys, we are pretty far off the original topic, and unless we go back to solar washing machines, I'll lock the thread.
I'm not wanting to find faults with anyone, but I'm sure the original poster is wondering huh ? ? what's the answer.

[ChrisOlson]

Chris my wife and make our own laundry detergent and is easy get 2 bars of pure soap ,borax ,and armor hammer washing soap 2 gallons of water
you can experiment with recipes.

I think she tried something like that some time ago. Does what you describe work in cold water OK? IIRC, what my wife tried the one time for homemade laundry soap was sort of thick and it did not dissolve readily in cold water (she uses all cold water for washing clothes).

I just noticed this morning she has a box of arm and hammer washing soda sitting on the shelf in the laundry room.
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Chris

[West Texas Bound]

Works good in cold water just need to thin it out with water