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  • antonycurley
    Member
    • Oct 2017
    • 32

    #16
    4 x Panasonic panels - HIT VBHN285SJ40 - 285w

    ISC - 5.91A
    VOC - 63.5V
    IMP - 5.49A
    VMP - 52V


    Would a MorningStar MPPT - 45 be ok for this set of panels 2s2p or do i really need to go 60amp or 80amp - with 4 x 6volt batteries around 300 - 350ah...?

    I hope that this system is going to cope with what i need so hoping i won't need to expand in the future.....
    Last edited by antonycurley; 01-08-2018, 04:11 PM.

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    • sensij
      Solar Fanatic
      • Sep 2014
      • 5074

      #17
      Originally posted by antonycurley
      4 x Panasonic panels - HIT VBHN285SJ40 - 285w

      ISC - 5.91A
      VOC - 63.5V
      IMP - 5.49A
      VMP - 52V


      Would a MorningStar MPPT - 45 be ok for this set of panels 2s2p or do i really need to go 60amp or 80amp?

      I hope that this system is going to cope with what i need so hoping i won't need to expand in the future.....
      45 A is fine. At *STC* you have 1140 W, or 47.5 A @ 24 V. STC conditions are very rare in the real world, and losses from the charge controller itself mean that you won't be costing yourself *any* power with the smaller controller in this configuration.
      CS6P-260P/SE3000 - http://tiny.cc/ed5ozx

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      • Mike90250
        Moderator
        • May 2009
        • 16020

        #18
        The MS MPPT-60 has a hidden feature - it's built in web interface. If you can plug it into a router, you can monitor it and not need the $100 meter panel. The base model comes with a blank front panel. the -45 does not have the web interface.
        Powerfab top of pole PV mount (2) | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||
        || Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
        || VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A

        solar: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Solar
        gen: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Lister

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        • antonycurley
          Member
          • Oct 2017
          • 32

          #19
          Originally posted by Mike90250
          The MS MPPT-60 has a hidden feature - it's built in web interface. If you can plug it into a router, you can monitor it and not need the $100 meter panel. The base model comes with a blank front panel. the -45 does not have the web interface.
          Only one problem with that. No landline for calls or internet.

          Internet will be solely from a sim card/wi fi spot.

          House is completely off grid.

          I might go for the 60amp anyway as it just gives me that bit of room for slight expansion...

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          • Mike90250
            Moderator
            • May 2009
            • 16020

            #20
            For setup & testing, you will want to be able to "see" whats going on inside the Controller. Either with the $100 meter, or using a $15 router and your existing computer.
            (Noonish on a cloudy day, 3Kw array)

            TristarMPPT60_9Jan2018.jpg
            Powerfab top of pole PV mount (2) | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||
            || Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
            || VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A

            solar: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Solar
            gen: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Lister

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            • antonycurley
              Member
              • Oct 2017
              • 32

              #21
              Originally posted by Mike90250
              For setup & testing, you will want to be able to "see" whats going on inside the Controller. Either with the $100 meter, or using a $15 router and your existing computer.
              (Noonish on a cloudy day, 3Kw array)

              TristarMPPT60_9Jan2018.jpg
              I understand that but.....

              Does it actually need an internet connection or could you just connect the CC to Router via Ethernet then connect to the Laptop via Ethernet or WiFi?

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              • Mike90250
                Moderator
                • May 2009
                • 16020

                #22
                no internet needed. I just hooked a wifi router up to mine, and took the screenshot 300feet away at my desk. Been doing that for 5 years
                Morningstar on router port 1
                ComBox on port 2
                Midnight classic on port 3
                And I can see them all from my desk
                Powerfab top of pole PV mount (2) | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||
                || Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
                || VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A

                solar: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Solar
                gen: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Lister

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                • antonycurley
                  Member
                  • Oct 2017
                  • 32

                  #23
                  Im leaning more towards the Outback or the Midnite Classic as both have more headroom for expansion at 24v and both come already with LCD built in....

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                  • Mike90250
                    Moderator
                    • May 2009
                    • 16020

                    #24
                    Classic also has HTML interface for their free Local App to view, monitor and adjust remotely (like over my wifi link)

                    ClassicPeakPower_2112W.jpg
                    Powerfab top of pole PV mount (2) | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||
                    || Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
                    || VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A

                    solar: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Solar
                    gen: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Lister

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                    • KMac
                      Member
                      • Apr 2016
                      • 66

                      #25
                      Just a further comment on the internet capability of Morningstar 60 MPPT vs the 45 You may just have a 4G internet connection but I understand Morningstar is coming out with a service to view the data in the cloud. When away, you could then view everything, theoretically using just a cellular connection to the internet to upload it (without having to use a VPN to tunnel back into your router). It will be a great feature for me since I will be able to monitor my cabin when away, and that's especially important since I have things running every day in summer (well and irrigation on timers).

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