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  • SunEagle
    Super Moderator
    • Oct 2012
    • 15125

    #31
    Originally posted by GoldCobra
    I checked out how much volt and amp the tiny cells make.

    0.80A
    0.55V

    So I guess the cell remains almost as much volt as a larger complete cell. Just less amp.

    If anyone interested in the cells http://www.ebay.com/itm/252340165663
    You wont find them cheaper on ebay for 100pcs especially mono ones. Ive not seen anybody else sell mono ones.
    Most times I see people sell photovoltaic ones for 15 bucks for 100pcs. also note that the conductivity pattern is not exactly the same on the front side of cells in yims pictures.
    I believe that is what I said would happen with your cell output.

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    • Guest

      #32
      Yep. I figured as much too. Although I didnt think it would produce that much Amps either. I wonder if you chop them up smaller you get smaller amps as well perhaps.

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      • SunEagle
        Super Moderator
        • Oct 2012
        • 15125

        #33
        Think of the pv cell as a farm. The smaller it is the less it produces. In this case it will be less watts. Since the volts stay the same the amps must go down based on the formula Watts = Voltage x Amps.

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        • Guest

          #34
          Originally posted by SunEagle
          Think of the pv cell as a farm. The smaller it is the less it produces. In this case it will be less watts. Since the volts stay the same the amps must go down based on the formula Watts = Voltage x Amps.
          I know thats common sense. I know what Electron and Nuetron and Proton are and nuclieus. I am familiar with Electron flow. Scientific notation.
          Bunch of stuff I learned in past month.
          I didnt know solar Cells were just Electrons though. I thought they had neutrons and protons in them as well.
          I.E.R TRiangle thingy.
          conductors and semi conductors

          Alot of the basics.
          Last edited by Guest; 04-03-2016, 10:50 PM.

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          • Guest

            #35
            Does Solar Cell move by Convetional Flow notation or Electron flow notation?
            Conventional im assuming

            Im trying to find like. A book on electronics, with water pipe analogy of Each electronic peices. like Caps, and JTEF, PNP's that kind of stuff.
            Last edited by Guest; 04-03-2016, 10:58 PM.

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            • inetdog
              Super Moderator
              • May 2012
              • 9909

              #36
              Originally posted by GoldCobra
              Does Solar Cell move by Convetional Flow notation or Electron flow notation?
              Conventional im assuming

              Im trying to find like. A book on electronics, with water pipe analogy of Each electronic peices. like Caps, and JTEF, PNP's that kind of stuff.
              Solar Cells work by moving either electrons (negative) or spots where electrons would normally be (holes, positive) from one place to another.
              Whether you describe the resulting current in electron flow or conventional notation has absolutely no effect on what is happening inside the cells.

              Now a diode symbol looks a little bit like an arrow, and if you interpret it as showing the direction that current can flow easily then that corresponds to conventional current.
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              • Guest

                #37
                Originally posted by inetdog
                Solar Cells work by moving either electrons (negative) or spots where electrons would normally be (holes, positive) from one place to another.
                Whether you describe the resulting current in electron flow or conventional notation has absolutely no effect on what is happening inside the cells.

                Now a diode symbol looks a little bit like an arrow, and if you interpret it as showing the direction that current can flow easily then that corresponds to conventional current.
                Sure Im aware of this, Anode and Cathode of Diode. I have plenty of questions that I wrote down. And am Happy you guys are willing to assist me.

                Is there a way to add protons and neutrons to the solar tab and bus conductors either by external influence of another mechanism.

                How much Volt and Amp can a tab wire hold. and also Bus.
                Last edited by Guest; 04-05-2016, 04:29 PM.

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                • jflorey2
                  Solar Fanatic
                  • Aug 2015
                  • 2331

                  #38
                  Originally posted by GoldCobra
                  Is there a way to add protons and neutrons to the solar tab and bus conductors either by external influence of another mechanism.
                  No. You can't add mass to the cell.
                  How much Volt and Amp can a tab wire hold. and also Bus.
                  Depends on the tab. A conductor can carry a certain amount of current based on its conductivity, cross section and allowable temperature rise. There is effectively no limit to the voltage; that is generally set by the insulation strength and safety regulations.

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                  • Guest

                    #39
                    Is there a way I can add a proton receiver to the conductor. So it can allow the electrons to move to proton device or something rather.

                    How do you find a Tab conductivity to see how much current it can hold.

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                    • jflorey2
                      Solar Fanatic
                      • Aug 2015
                      • 2331

                      #40
                      Originally posted by GoldCobra
                      Is there a way I can add a proton receiver to the conductor. So it can allow the electrons to move to proton device or something rather.
                      No.
                      How do you find a Tab conductivity to see how much current it can hold.
                      You would look at the manufacturer's specifications for the part.

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                      • Guest

                        #41
                        Say 5.0x0.2mm solar bus bar tab

                        Dont you just need the thickness of busbar to determin how much current?

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                        • Mike90250
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                          • May 2009
                          • 16020

                          #42
                          You need thickness, material type, and spec for how much heat adjoing parts can withstand, usually the cell will fail, before the tabbing melts.
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                          • SunEagle
                            Super Moderator
                            • Oct 2012
                            • 15125

                            #43
                            Originally posted by GoldCobra
                            Say 5.0x0.2mm solar bus bar tab

                            Dont you just need the thickness of busbar to determin how much current?
                            The size of the bus is not the only piece of the puzzle. The material it is made from needs to have the lowest resistance as possible (copper, aluminum, gold, platinum, etc.).

                            Sometimes the number of wires the "grid" or "mesh" on the cell helps collect more electrons along with the "sheet resistance" of the pv cell material surface will determine how many electrons can be harvested by the "grid" or "mesh" connected to the busbar.

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                            • Guest

                              #44
                              Originally posted by SunEagle

                              The size of the bus is not the only piece of the puzzle. The material it is made from needs to have the lowest resistance as possible (copper, aluminum, gold, platinum, etc.).

                              Sometimes the number of wires the "grid" or "mesh" on the cell helps collect more electrons along with the "sheet resistance" of the pv cell material surface will determine how many electrons can be harvested by the "grid" or "mesh" connected to the busbar.
                              So for example the 5.0x0.2mm solar bus. How much electrons would it hold. Where do I find the spec.
                              Im way over my head becuase I bought a bunch of solder and tabbing and have no clue about there specs.
                              I thought it was all determine by thickness.

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                              • Guest

                                #45
                                Im so stupid now im sitting in Hot water with this issue..got alot of tabbing and bus and no clue about its spec. other than its thickness.
                                Ive got two big rolls, no description on them other than
                                0,2*2mm
                                And 0.16*18mm
                                And tabbing for the rolls that have nothing labeled on them

                                What sort of things would I need to be concered and look for when asking spec sheet or information
                                and what should I look for from the cells specs
                                Last edited by Guest; 04-06-2016, 09:35 AM.

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