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  • themaxx69
    Junior Member
    • Aug 2011
    • 19

    #1

    Sunelec prices! Any reason not to buy?

    Ever since I've been looking this year, I have noticed sunelec's prices have been insainly low compared to what I have heard about solar prices in the years past. And now they are advertising Evergreen high voltage "B" panels for 78 cents a watt.

    My question is, is there any reason not to buy from them? Either their "A" or "B" panels? The "B" panels are advertised as UL rated and FULL warranty. Even the "A" panels are only a little over $1 a watt.

    At these prices why would you not buy???
  • Ian S
    Solar Fanatic
    • Sep 2011
    • 1879

    #2
    Originally posted by themaxx69
    Ever since I've been looking this year, I have noticed sunelec's prices have been insainly low compared to what I have heard about solar prices in the years past. And now they are advertising Evergreen high voltage "B" panels for 78 cents a watt.

    My question is, is there any reason not to buy from them? Either their "A" or "B" panels? The "B" panels are advertised as UL rated and FULL warranty. Even the "A" panels are only a little over $1 a watt.

    At these prices why would you not buy???
    Oh, I dunno, maybe because Evergreen went belly up.

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    • russ
      Solar Fanatic
      • Jul 2009
      • 10360

      #3
      Na warranty, no service and no returns - with money upfront

      Pays you money and takes you chances

      For pallet size lots our host has good deals
      [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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      • themaxx69
        Junior Member
        • Aug 2011
        • 19

        #4
        How does that really change anything. If the panels work and to "spec". I mean, at that price, they pay for themselves pretty quick. Honestly, I wonder what the solar market will look like in 10 years, or 5 or 15.

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        • russ
          Solar Fanatic
          • Jul 2009
          • 10360

          #5
          Panels are only part of the system - the cost of the balance of equipment, materials and labor is now the biggest part
          [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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          • themaxx69
            Junior Member
            • Aug 2011
            • 19

            #6
            Originally posted by russ
            Panels are only part of the system - the cost of the balance of equipment, materials and labor is now the biggest part
            Not from what I have been seeing. Not counting batteries. And as far as installation, DIY, for the most part. It's like, I about fell out of my chair laughing when I saw that people actually pay THOUSANDS of dollars for a solar tracker! You can build one, of same quality for a FRACTION of that, and get 30-50% more power. I'm still working on those numbers though.

            I'm amazed at how lazy people are these days when it comes to actually DOING something other than working these days. I mean, jeeze, it's like people don't know what to do with the internet other than gossip and look at porn.

            I mean, once you do the research and compile all the info, and get the equipment, building a solar system is nothing compared to other tasks. It's like building a lego set. Working on a car is more difficult.

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            • russ
              Solar Fanatic
              • Jul 2009
              • 10360

              #7
              Originally posted by themaxx69
              Not from what I have been seeing. Not counting batteries. And as far as installation, DIY, for the most part. It's like, I about fell out of my chair laughing when I saw that people actually pay THOUSANDS of dollars for a solar tracker! You can build one, of same quality for a FRACTION of that, and get 30-50% more power. I'm still working on those numbers though.

              I'm amazed at how lazy people are these days when it comes to actually DOING something other than working these days. I mean, jeeze, it's like people don't know what to do with the internet other than gossip and look at porn.

              I mean, once you do the research and compile all the info, and get the equipment, building a solar system is nothing compared to other tasks. It's like building a lego set. Working on a car is more difficult.
              You are spreading BS - by the bucket full!

              For other members reading this 'themax' doesn't have a system, has never built one and is a newbie to solar blowing smoke.
              [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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              • russ
                Solar Fanatic
                • Jul 2009
                • 10360

                #8
                max - Your last post was deleted - if you want to participate in the forum fine but talk sense rather than what you have been. Your research is a bit 'lite'.

                Continue on the same line as before and you are gone.
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                • Sunking
                  Solar Fanatic
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 23301

                  #9
                  Originally posted by themaxx69
                  How does that really change anything. If the panels work and to "spec". I mean, at that price, they pay for themselves pretty quick. Honestly, I wonder what the solar market will look like in 10 years, or 5 or 15.
                  They are selling those panels at a huge loss and liquidating inventory. My guess is to close down and file bankruptcy.
                  MSEE, PE

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                  • themaxx69
                    Junior Member
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 19

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Sunking
                    They are selling those panels at a huge loss and liquidating inventory. My guess is to close down and file bankruptcy.
                    Yes, but how does that change the deal.

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                    • Mike90250
                      Moderator
                      • May 2009
                      • 16020

                      #11
                      Originally posted by themaxx69
                      ...My question is, is there any reason not to buy from them? Either their "A" or "B" panels? The "B" panels are advertised as UL rated and FULL warranty. Even the "A" panels are only a little over $1 a watt.....
                      Apparently, they are in over their heads, I'd ordered a full pallet-o-panels in early November, and while my credit card was charged the same day, they still have not shipped (12-31-201), or given me a intelligible invoice. I'm currently not in a hurry for the panels, but would hope to see them soon !
                      Powerfab top of pole PV mount (2) | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||
                      || Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
                      || VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A

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                      • bidaw
                        Member
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 46

                        #12
                        I actually saw sunelec's insane pricing and flew down to their operation in Miami. Friendly people (my experience), and very accommodating. First thing I noticed was everyone was busy...talking to walk-in customers and on the phones answering questions and taking orders. After the sales rep took me to see some of the product I was interested in (Louis), he sat me down and we spec'd out what I was wanting and worked out a quote for it. Pricing was so low, I called my buddy while sitting there and got him to buy over a kw of panels he wasn't needing (mainly to help out with the shipping). Ordered on a Thursday and it was delivered in WV on the following Wednesday! Again, this is just my experience with them...I have read posts around the net that were not flattering, but they really were great with me. I would buy from them again.

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                        • peakbagger
                          Solar Fanatic
                          • Jun 2010
                          • 1566

                          #13
                          They are a small company that went way over their head. I expect they didnt have a line of credit in place large enough to make the payment to the acutioneer thus the pay in advance requirement., I do have some ordered, but really question if they ever will be delivered.

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                          • SolarMarc
                            Junior Member
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 1

                            #14
                            My Experience with SunElec

                            Ordered the 215watt Evergreen panels from SunElec on November 14, 2011. After the sale, never heard anything from SunElec. Started trying to call them in January, finally reached someone who told me they had "gone through" all of the 215watt panels (Which I had paid for 6 weeks earlier.) Told they "Upgraded" me to Canadian Solar panels. I asked for tracking information, which they promised to email, but never have. I've sent several emails to the SunElec rep who I purchased from (one "Louis Prophete"), all ignored. I posted pleas for help to their blog - which the moderator deleted.

                            I've since discovered that the "upgraded" panels that they are shipping are different; Speced for grid-tie installations, where as my application is off-grid. Would have been nice if anyone at Sunelec had bothered to check with me on this first. To use their "replacement" panels will require I replace my charge controller with a different controller.

                            As of this writing, I'm still out the money, nothing (yet) delivered, and even when it shows it will be the wrong stuff.

                            The discount prices offered by SunElec have been an expensive lesson for me - and I don't imagine being a repeat customer.

                            There is far more to a company than "best price". Lesson learned.

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                            • Jason
                              Administrator
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 990

                              #15
                              Buying Solar Panels

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