Portable solar generator with integrated storage.

[inetdog]

Just to possibly clear one thing up, 100Wh per hour would be 100W.
100W/hr would be a well defined although generally useless measure of how fast the power output is increasing at any given time.
That is, for example, a panel array that starts out at zero watts before the sun comes up and then increases in output by 100W/hour until five hours later it is producing 500W.

[russ]

This thread is better than a comic book! Reminds me of the shyster in Florida that was developing a new cell with ultra high efficiency - had several PO boxes and nothing more.

[J.P.M.]

I believe this product is a scam. Plain and simple.

[SunEagle]

On the generation side it should produce 100 W/h due to a proprietery charge pump, and dependent on your geographic location. On the storage side, it has the ability to hold up to 5 kWh in battery storage.




The inventor has been involved in the solar industry for over 40 years.

"The cells are a-Si which is excellent at absorbing indirect light. Unlike Mono and poly crystalline flat panels which have to be at the correct angle of incidence towards the sun to allow for peak power generation. With a-Si we begin generation at first light, plateau, and continue to generate until last light. This effectively allows you to generate for longer periods throughout the day."

If you remove the cells from one side of the structure you effectively eliminate half of your charging surface. The sun follows an arc throughout the day, so why not allow for maximum generation potential without having to constantly adjust the device to follow the sun.



The total panel wattage is 100 W/h peak with a proprietary charge pump. We can store up to 5 kWh in one device. A 5 kWh model will weigh about 100 pounds, one with less storage capicity would weigh less. The funny tubes are energy generation and storage devices that can all work in conjunction with each other. They also all use pre-existing infrastructures for installation, therefore no additional land is needed to use solar power.

Sorry. I am not impressed with that explainton. What does 100w/h peak mean?

For that 5 kWh storage system, please provide the wattage rating, the number of cycles based on a DOD% and approximate cost. Based on that information I will let you know if I feel it is worth it.

[sdold]

[B]The inventor has been involved in the solar industry for over 40 years.

That's a weird thing to come up with, then. It looks like something a student would try to design. I wouldn't be interested because it looks like it's way over-engineered (and likely expensive) for what it will produce. It seems like you could do the same thing with a nice simple system with a flat panel pointed South, all in a briefcase or suitcase arrangement. But I can't think of a good use for it, what is its intended purpose?

What does "100 W/h" mean?

[bberry]

So a hundred watts peak charging 5 kwh?

[solaroad]

How much energy in watt hours does it produce per day?

Actually it could be considered a solar energy collector. Although I would say the total kw rating must be pretty small since only a portion of the cells will be able to collect the sun anytime during the day.

But all the cells should collect some amount of energy from sun up to sun down (except for when that handle shades the top panels).

Maybe even enough to charge that internal storage device.

On the generation side it should produce 100 W/h due to a proprietery charge pump, and dependent on your geographic location. On the storage side, it has the ability to hold up to 5 kWh in battery storage.

Looks to be "designed" by someone who is not well versed in solar energy fundamentals.

BTW: For starters, about half the cells will be shaded at any one time. probably about half the remaining will be at an inefficient incidence angle. I'd start by removing the cells from one side of the structure and getting rid of the curved surface. Then, make the tilt angle adjustable.

Next, I go back to the drawing boards and get an empty sheet, and start from there, but not until I got a grasp on the fundamentals.

The inventor has been involved in the solar industry for over 40 years.

"The cells are a-Si which is excellent at absorbing indirect light. Unlike Mono and poly crystalline flat panels which have to be at the correct angle of incidence towards the sun to allow for peak power generation. With a-Si we begin generation at first light, plateau, and continue to generate until last light. This effectively allows you to generate for longer periods throughout the day."

If you remove the cells from one side of the structure you effectively eliminate half of your charging surface. The sun follows an arc throughout the day, so why not allow for maximum generation potential without having to constantly adjust the device to follow the sun.

I still would like to know what is the total (and usable) panel wattage along with the kWh (or volt & Ah) rating of the storage device.

While it may be portable it looks heavy to carry it around just by that handle.

I just checked out the website and it has ZERO data on wattage, voltage, Ah.

But it did have some funny pictures of these tubes mounted on roadway barriers and office cubicles.

The total panel wattage is 100 W/h peak with a proprietary charge pump. We can store up to 5 kWh in one device. A 5 kWh model will weigh about 100 pounds, one with less storage capicity would weigh less. The funny tubes are energy generation and storage devices that can all work in conjunction with each other. They also all use pre-existing infrastructures for installation, therefore no additional land is needed to use solar power.

[SunEagle]

I still would like to know what is the total (and usable) panel wattage along with the kWh (or volt & Ah) rating of the storage device.

While it may be portable it looks heavy to carry it around just by that handle.

I just checked out the website and it has ZERO data on wattage, voltage, Ah.

But it did have some funny pictures of these tubes mounted on roadway barriers and office cubicles.

[russ]

Looks to be "designed" by someone who is not well versed in solar energy fundamentals.

BTW: For starters, about half the cells will be shaded at any one time. probably about half the remaining will be at an inefficient incidence angle. I'd start by removing the cells from one side of the structure and getting rid of the curved surface. Then, make the tilt angle adjustable.

Next, I go back to the drawing boards and get an empty sheet, and start from there, but not until I got a grasp on the fundamentals.

Or go for crowd funding and rake in big bucks from fools.

[J.P.M.]

Looks to be "designed" by someone who is not well versed in solar energy fundamentals.

BTW: For starters, about half the cells will be shaded at any one time. probably about half the remaining will be at an inefficient incidence angle. I'd start by removing the cells from one side of the structure and getting rid of the curved surface. Then, make the tilt angle adjustable.

Next, I go back to the drawing boards and get an empty sheet, and start from there, but not until I got a grasp on the fundamentals.

[SunEagle]

Hate to tell you this but you are posting tripe -

Actually it could be considered a solar energy collector. Although I would say the total kw rating must be pretty small since only a portion of the cells will be able to collect the sun anytime during the day.

But all the cells should collect some amount of energy from sun up to sun down (except for when that handle shades the top panels).

Maybe even enough to charge that internal storage device.

[sdold]

What does everyone think about an all-in-one portable solar generator with integrated storage?

How much energy in watt hours does it produce per day?

[russ]

The cells are a-Si which is excellent at absorbing indirect light. Unlike Mono and poly crystalline flat panels which have to be at the correct angle of incidence towards the sun to allow for peak power generation. With flat panels you are correct in saying that the power curve peaks and drops off in the afternoon, but with a-Si we begin generation at first light, plateau, and continue to generate until last light. There is no sharp spike in the power curve in this device. This effectively allows you to generate for longer periods throughout the day.

Hate to tell you this but you are posting tripe -

[solaroad]

That happens to be total BS

The cells are a-Si which is excellent at absorbing indirect light. Unlike Mono and poly crystalline flat panels which have to be at the correct angle of incidence towards the sun to allow for peak power generation. With flat panels you are correct in saying that the power curve peaks and drops off in the afternoon, but with a-Si we begin generation at first light, plateau, and continue to generate until last light. There is no sharp spike in the power curve in this device. This effectively allows you to generate for longer periods throughout the day.

[russ]

I am not the inventer, but as I understand, the cells are curved so that the sun is able to hit from sun up to sun down.

That happens to be total BS