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  • totfcboatski
    Solar Fanatic
    • Sep 2011
    • 181

    #16
    hmmmm

    ok..the blue sea safety hub look too good to be true... it is a fused distribution block for all my appliances a ground bus to reference all my stuff to ground and it says it has a negative bus ut inthe schematic it shows only the positive battery conductor going to safety hub..
    hmmmm wonderiing now where the negative battery conductor goes...hmmm could it be that convienent that the safety hub provides a negative bus for all my negative conductors inclusing the big one from battery???
    HMMMMMM lol

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    • Sunking
      Solar Fanatic
      • Feb 2010
      • 23301

      #17
      Originally posted by totfcboatski
      ok..the blue sea safety hub look too good to be true... it is a fused distribution block for all my appliances a ground bus to reference all my stuff to ground and it says it has a negative bus ut inthe schematic it shows only the positive battery conductor going to safety hub..
      hmmmm wonderiing now where the negative battery conductor goes...hmmm could it be that convienent that the safety hub provides a negative bus for all my negative conductors inclusing the big one from battery???
      HMMMMMM lol
      Like I said some distribution blocks have return buses, and some do not.
      MSEE, PE

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      • totfcboatski
        Solar Fanatic
        • Sep 2011
        • 181

        #18
        what about this 1

        Engineering high quality marine electrical components for safety, reliability and performance


        this is the one im looking at.. have you any experience with these blue sea
        seems like solid stuff. i have 2 mbrf and two of thier switches.at the
        did you notice the schematic has a terminal for a battvry charger... you mentioned it wasnt advisable.. is this a deal changer?? or stil not a good idea to place a AC battvry charger inline with power distribution??
        learning is fun!

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        • Sunking
          Solar Fanatic
          • Feb 2010
          • 23301

          #19
          Originally posted by totfcboatski
          http://bluesea.com/viewresource/1446

          this is the one im looking at.. have you any experience with these blue sea
          seems like solid stuff. i have 2 mbrf and two of thier switches.at the
          did you notice the schematic has a terminal for a battvry charger... you mentioned it wasnt advisable.. is this a deal changer?? or stil not a good idea to place a AC battvry charger inline with power distribution??
          learning is fun!
          Jeff you can put the AC charger on the block, there are no code or technical issues to worry about. Well you gotta make sure the charger current does not exceed what the fuse or block can handle.

          I have not used that specific product, but use a few of their products similar to that in my company trucks. They make good stuff.
          MSEE, PE

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          • Mike90250
            Moderator
            • May 2009
            • 16020

            #20
            Originally posted by totfcboatski
            ....
            I have the blue sea single terminal mrbf on both the neg and positive battery terminals. .....
            That's redundant redundant.
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            • totfcboatski
              Solar Fanatic
              • Sep 2011
              • 181

              #21
              ????

              I thought for a floating system an mrbf on each terminal wast he way to go??
              i have no negative ground
              elighten me oh sensei lol

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              • Sunking
                Solar Fanatic
                • Feb 2010
                • 23301

                #22
                Originally posted by totfcboatski
                I thought for a floating system an mrbf on each terminal wast he way to go??
                i have no negative ground
                elighten me oh sensei lol
                Correct Sir if you are going to float the system you need to protect both polarities. Keep in mind that gets expensive on distribution because you will need two two distribution blocks; one for the positive and one for the negative wires.

                Warning here a lot of the DC powered equipment you buy will have the negative polarity bonded to the chassis. That defeats a floating system.
                MSEE, PE

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                • Mike90250
                  Moderator
                  • May 2009
                  • 16020

                  #23
                  I don't know that 2 fuses would hurt anything, just another part that could go bad. I also did not realize your system is floating/ungrounded.
                  I withdraw !
                  Powerfab top of pole PV mount (2) | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||
                  || Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
                  || VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A

                  solar: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Solar
                  gen: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Lister

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                  • Sunking
                    Solar Fanatic
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 23301

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Mike90250
                    I don't know that 2 fuses would hurt anything, just another part that could go bad.
                    Well Mike actually fusing both circuit conductors can hurt something if the system is grounded. If the fuse opens on the grounded circuit conductor, then there is a very high chance the return current will flow on something not intended for to on like the equipment ground conductors.
                    MSEE, PE

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