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  • totfcboatski
    Solar Fanatic
    • Sep 2011
    • 181

    #1

    battery terminal adapter

    I have a nb terminal where the bolt is attached horizontally.Ineed to adapt it so i can attach a bolt vertically.Im thinking ofr just getting a
    galvanized corner bracket and attach that to the terminal. any suggestions on an adapter? materials to use? I simply want to attach my 2/0 interconnects without a bend
    thanks in advance for any help
    Jeff
  • Sunking
    Solar Fanatic
    • Feb 2010
    • 23301

    #2
    Lead is the only appropriate material or lead plated copper.
    MSEE, PE

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    • totfcboatski
      Solar Fanatic
      • Sep 2011
      • 181

      #3
      sunking

      thanks
      I just ordered a couple of copper L brackets from portable power (Portablepower.com) They were made to adapt the odyssey batteries and
      sound like just what i needed. Though they are only copper
      [I] hear putting a coppper rod through the terminals is an an option.. thoughts??

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      • Naptown
        Solar Fanatic
        • Feb 2011
        • 6880

        #4
        So then get some lead flux them up and dip the in the molten lead. (ruby flux from the roofing supply.)
        NABCEP certified Technical Sales Professional

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        [URL]http://www.calculator.net/voltage-drop-calculator.html[/URL] (Voltage drop Calculator among others)

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        • Mike90250
          Moderator
          • May 2009
          • 16020

          #5
          each connector interface, will induce a voltage drop, and be another failure point.

          Take the copper angles, and at least tin them with lead based solder. Lead free solder does not resist corrosion well. for large lumps of copper, you may need take them to a shop that has the right equipment, and have them do the job for you. Or you could carefully bend the cables to fit.
          Powerfab top of pole PV mount (2) | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||
          || Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
          || VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A

          solar: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Solar
          gen: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Lister

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          • totfcboatski
            Solar Fanatic
            • Sep 2011
            • 181

            #6
            mike and sunking

            so dont use the same solder as I used for tabbing the solar cells and just cover the angles with the solder?
            I can do that. I realize its another connection point but having nice straight interconnect runs with no bends and short distances is a worthy goal
            also correct? call me a mental runt but i have no idea how im going to melt some lead (though i would love to learn) and covering the angles with
            lead bases solder sounds easier.....hmmmm

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            • Naptown
              Solar Fanatic
              • Feb 2011
              • 6880

              #7
              You can melt lead in a cast iron pot on the stove.
              Just make sure when you dip the copper there is no moisture on the copper it could be painful or deadly.
              NABCEP certified Technical Sales Professional

              [URL="http://www.solarpaneltalk.com/showthread.php?5334-Solar-Off-Grid-Battery-Design"]http://www.solarpaneltalk.com/showth...Battery-Design[/URL]

              [URL]http://www.calculator.net/voltage-drop-calculator.html[/URL] (Voltage drop Calculator among others)

              [URL="http://www.gaisma.com"]www.gaisma.com[/URL]

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              • Mike90250
                Moderator
                • May 2009
                • 16020

                #8
                You need to get 4 or 5 fire bricks (white, lightweight brick, reflects heat) and remove the grate off of your largest stove burner. Get a lead pot, lead and flux from a plumbing store, stack it all up on your stove, open the windows, turn on the vent, and fire it up. After about 30 minutes, the lead may begin to melt, and you can dip the copper angles into it, with flux. (polish them up real good first with some 000 fine steel wool) The cleaner they are, the better they get coated.
                Powerfab top of pole PV mount (2) | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||
                || Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
                || VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A

                solar: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Solar
                gen: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Lister

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                • totfcboatski
                  Solar Fanatic
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 181

                  #9
                  hmmmm

                  Think ill pass on the lead melting. so what your saying is soldering some lead on the copper angles will be an acceptable subsitute?
                  Ill start that tonight when i purchase some lead solder and some respirator masks lol must say that returning the cables for longer sizes is looking
                  better with each posts but i guess tinning the angles with solder is an option i can do quickly and without hazard... hmmmm

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                  • Mike90250
                    Moderator
                    • May 2009
                    • 16020

                    #10
                    Easiest - take it to a plumbing shop, they should be able to do it, cost less than new cables.
                    Powerfab top of pole PV mount (2) | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||
                    || Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
                    || VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A

                    solar: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Solar
                    gen: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Lister

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                    • totfcboatski
                      Solar Fanatic
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 181

                      #11
                      mike

                      ok mike..call me a sissy but im calling the local plumbing outfit
                      i like easiest! this wayi get nice straight short interconnect runs and mnimize my losses

                      today is day 4 that I have saved my wife by being able to give her home office 4 hours of backup power (another outage here in maine) from my
                      tiny little system (using one battery at a time down to 70%) batteries are charging and on wed i will be deploying my first panel!

                      Hey mike how far r u from the pacific crest trail???

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                      • Mike90250
                        Moderator
                        • May 2009
                        • 16020

                        #12
                        Originally posted by totfcboatski
                        ....Hey mike how far r u from the pacific crest trail???
                        about 80 miles away, and have done about 90 miles of it, in chunks over the years.
                        Powerfab top of pole PV mount (2) | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||
                        || Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
                        || VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A

                        solar: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Solar
                        gen: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Lister

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                        • totfcboatski
                          Solar Fanatic
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 181

                          #13
                          pct

                          awesome!!
                          I completed the trail in 1984 and 91 so looking forward to get back there in the next couple of years with my son to hopefully try to thru hike it again with him. that is if california hasnt slid off into the ocean!

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                          • russ
                            Solar Fanatic
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 10360

                            #14
                            I was on sections of the trail in Oregon back in the early 60's - beautiful.
                            [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                            • totfcboatski
                              Solar Fanatic
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 181

                              #15
                              pct

                              Yeah the pct uses significant parts of the old Oregon Trail i really miss long distance hiking and living "off the grid" for months at a time
                              Hopefully ill get back thier soon with my son and after i figure out this solar system stuff!

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