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  • Mike90250
    Moderator
    • May 2009
    • 16020

    #16
    11.5kwh / 7 days = 1643 wh daily. That will require about 2,000 wh harvested daily, maybe a bit more just to be safe. 4 hours sun onto a pair of 250w panels ( 500w total ) will be a bit shy of your needed harvest - panels generally only produce about 80% of nameplate. And you don't have enough PV to recharge batteries when they are low, only enough to break even daily.

    4ea, 250W panels wired in series/parallel, into a 24V controller, would get you about 30A for recharging a 24V battery. Make that battery up from 4 golf cart 6v, 200a batteries and you have 4,800 wh of storage, which gets you one cloudy day and then dead batteries.
    Powerfab top of pole PV mount (2) | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||
    || Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
    || VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A

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    • wdc
      Member
      • Jul 2019
      • 69

      #17
      Originally posted by Mike90250
      11.5kwh / 7 days = 1643 wh daily. That will require about 2,000 wh harvested daily, maybe a bit more just to be safe. 4 hours sun onto a pair of 250w panels ( 500w total ) will be a bit shy of your needed harvest - panels generally only produce about 80% of nameplate. And you don't have enough PV to recharge batteries when they are low, only enough to break even daily.

      4ea, 250W panels wired in series/parallel, into a 24V controller, would get you about 30A for recharging a 24V battery. Make that battery up from 4 golf cart 6v, 200a batteries and you have 4,800 wh of storage, which gets you one cloudy day and then dead batteries.
      Thanks Mike90250 but I won't use 250w panels, I will only use two or three 500w panels wired in series and I don't have any access to golf cart batteries, only AGM ones, I'm planning to buy two Ritar AGM 225ah each, for a total of 450ah and 24V, how many days of autonomy would that give me? thanks.

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      • J.P.M.
        Solar Fanatic
        • Aug 2013
        • 15064

        #18
        Originally posted by jovenac
        our idea is generally workable, but the weak point is the battery sizing and a small wiring misconception. Two 12V 225Ah AGMs in series give you 24V 225Ah, not 450Ah. That’s about 5.4 kWh total, but realistically only ~2.5–3 kWh usable if you want decent battery life. For a fridge, that may cover roughly 1–2 days, not 4 days of autonomy, especially with an older unit. The 1000W of solar is more than enough for a single fridge and is actually well sized. The 1500W pure sine inverter is also fine, just keep idle consumption low. Overall: solar is solid, inverter is fine, but you’ll likely need either more battery capacity or accept using grid backup during longer cloudy periods.
        You do know you're responding to a post that's about 4 1/2 years old and WDC has probably solved his dilemma or moved on, right ?

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        • SunEagle
          Super Moderator
          • Oct 2012
          • 15197

          #19
          Originally posted by J.P.M.

          You do know you're responding to a post that's about 4 1/2 years old and WDC has probably solved his dilemma or moved on, right ?
          good point J.P.M. sometimes a newbie doesn't look at the post date

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          • J.P.M.
            Solar Fanatic
            • Aug 2013
            • 15064

            #20
            Originally posted by SunEagle

            good point J.P.M. sometimes a newbie doesn't look at the post date
            Yea, I guess it's come down to chasing old posts around. Not a lot of traffic anymore.

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            • SunEagle
              Super Moderator
              • Oct 2012
              • 15197

              #21
              Originally posted by J.P.M.

              Yea, I guess it's come down to chasing old posts around. Not a lot of traffic anymore.
              Nope. There seems to be less traffic. I thought it had to do because I have not responded lately due to my wife passing last July

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              • J.P.M.
                Solar Fanatic
                • Aug 2013
                • 15064

                #22
                Originally posted by SunEagle

                Nope. There seems to be less traffic. I thought it had to do because I have not responded lately due to my wife passing last July
                My condolences on your loss. I wish you peace.

                J.P.M.

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                • SunEagle
                  Super Moderator
                  • Oct 2012
                  • 15197

                  #23
                  Originally posted by J.P.M.

                  My condolences on your loss. I wish you peace.

                  J.P.M.
                  thank you for your kind words

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                  • J.P.M.
                    Solar Fanatic
                    • Aug 2013
                    • 15064

                    #24
                    Originally posted by SunEagle

                    thank you for your kind words
                    You are most welcome.
                    Con molto dolore.

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                    • sdold
                      Moderator
                      • Jun 2014
                      • 1487

                      #25
                      I'm sorry to hear about your wife Vince.
                      Forums in general seem to be getting less traffic thanks to there being so many alternatives like Reddit, etc. I think the advice here and on other forums is of better quality though thanks to less anonymity and better peer-review by the forum community. Here you' don't seem to get the flood of nonsense answers that you get elsewhere.

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