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  • Jose263
    Junior Member
    • Oct 2016
    • 3

    #1

    Advice - Meters vs. blinking LED indicators Morningstar controller

    Gulf Coast Mississippi wanted solar PV for non-generator emergency power for hurricane season and reduce grid usage - this is last year to take advantage of tax credits. I am not entirely satisfied with installer advice and u-tubed out.
    Recently installed by local company as grid tie with battery backup for my home - Aims 6 kw Model # picoglf60w24v240vs, TS-MPPT-60 charge controller, 6 agm batterys, 8 solar panels.
    I am getting aclimated to the system however, I don't feel comfortable with only the idiot lights (LEDs) on the controller for monitoring-
    With batteries fully charged the system supports the critical sub panel circuits about 15 hrs before the yellow/red LEDs display on controller.

    I would prefer to have digital/analog displays connected to monitor actual state of the batteries, power draw, whatever else would be useful to monitor
    Request advice - what meters or options could/should be added to the system to best monitor performance, SOC, power use, etc.
    Recommended brands/models?
    Thanks

  • Mike90250
    Moderator
    • May 2009
    • 16020

    #2
    Morningstar makes a Digital Meter that replaces the plain front panel of their Controller
    http://www.morningstarcorp.com/produ...gital-meter-2/ Also, they have a remote meter, with 30 meters of cable, if you like that better.
    Also, the TS-MPPT-60 has a internal web server inside, connect to an ethernet host and it gives a web page full of info, (I use a wireless hub and my laptop or phone's Browser works just fine)
    Powerfab top of pole PV mount (2) | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||
    || Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
    || VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A

    solar: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Solar
    gen: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Lister

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    • littleharbor
      Solar Fanatic
      • Jan 2016
      • 1998

      #3
      There are the Bogart Tri-Metric and Victron Energy meters. They give you a lot of information with a fairly straightforward installation.
      2.2kw Suntech mono, Classic 200, NEW Trace SW4024

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      • Jose263
        Junior Member
        • Oct 2016
        • 3

        #4
        Originally posted by Mike90250
        Morningstar makes a Digital Meter that replaces the plain front panel of their Controller
        http://www.morningstarcorp.com/produ...gital-meter-2/ Also, they have a remote meter, with 30 meters of cable, if you like that better.
        Also, the TS-MPPT-60 has a internal web server inside, connect to an ethernet host and it gives a web page full of info, (I use a wireless hub and my laptop or phone's Browser works just fine)
        Wow ! - Great information - I have wireless network in my home via a wireless router - I had no idea anything like that was possible - installer just suggested I use a multimeter when I asked about meters vs LEDs.
        RE: your set up 'I use a wireless hub and my laptop or phone's Browser works just fine.' I am going to ask my techie son for help but, could you give more info about how to connect and what hardware is needed... sorry to be a bother but I'm a nerd.. thanks

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        • Mike90250
          Moderator
          • May 2009
          • 16020

          #5
          I've got each piece of solar gear, plugged into a port of a 4 port wireless router, (linksys wrt54)
          Then I tune to the wifi of the router, and enter the device address
          morningstar is ser number http://tsmppt9999876/datalog.html
          Combox is it's assigned IP address http://192.168.2.101/login.cgi
          Midnight http://192.168.2.102
          Your numbers will be different
          Powerfab top of pole PV mount (2) | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||
          || Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
          || VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A

          solar: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Solar
          gen: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Lister

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          • Jose263
            Junior Member
            • Oct 2016
            • 3

            #6
            Thanks for the description - I'm out of town for the weekend but will start next week on this project - What other 'gear' do you monitor/plug into the router - other than the Morningstar MPPT controller?

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            • Mike90250
              Moderator
              • May 2009
              • 16020

              #7
              I just plug the gear into the router with an ethernet cable

              I've got each piece of solar gear, plugged into a port of a 4 port wireless router, (linksys wrt54)
              Then I tune to the wifi of the router, and enter the device address
              morningstar is ser number http://tsmppt9999876/datalog.html
              Combox is it's assigned IP address http://192.168.2.101/login.cgi
              Midnight Classic http://192.168.2.102
              and I have an empty jack left over.

              Powerfab top of pole PV mount (2) | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||
              || Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
              || VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A

              solar: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Solar
              gen: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Lister

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              • Jose263
                Jose263 commented
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                Mike -Thanks again for your advice - I didn't want to run a long cat5 cable through the attic - instead I added a lynksys ac-1200 wifi extender and connected a port to the Tristar controller - I can now see the Tristar Test page and live view You also mentioned monitoring a combo box and Midnight classic? what info do you get from them..and .do you know if the aims inverter provides similar monitoring?
                Now able to see battery SOC and volts produced by the array - how can I monitor the AC power usage?
            • superdad
              Junior Member
              • Oct 2016
              • 1

              #8
              WHAT DOES Red X mean on solaredge monitoring

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