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  • ShastaDuke
    Junior Member
    • Jan 2016
    • 8

    #1

    Help with de-rating center fed panel.

    I've recently finished installing a 6.2kw system with a SolarEdge SE6000A-US inverter. I have a center-fed 200A panel.

    The inspector came today for final and informed me that I'd need to de-rate the service breaker to accommodate the new PV circuit.

    I'm having trouble determining if I can use a 175A service breaker or 150A. The max continuous output current of the inverter is 25A + 20%=30A, so am I correct in my assumption that the 175A breaker would not meet the requirement(175+30=205)?

    I've checked my other circuits and 150A would be overly sufficient, but I'd like to use a 175A if at all possible.

    Thanks in advance for any advice.
  • silversaver
    Solar Fanatic
    • Jul 2013
    • 1390

    #2
    What City and State are you in? I have not heard anyone ever needed to de-rating a 200A service panel for just a 6.2kW system....

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    • sensij
      Solar Fanatic
      • Sep 2014
      • 5074

      #3
      Yes, the rules for center-fed panels are more stringent than the typical end-fed design. The PV breaker is sized 125% of the inverter's rated output, so a 30 A breaker would be too small. Derating the main to 150 A is the way to go if you want stay with a load-side connection.
      CS6P-260P/SE3000 - http://tiny.cc/ed5ozx

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      • ShastaDuke
        Junior Member
        • Jan 2016
        • 8

        #4
        Originally posted by sensij
        Yes, the rules for center-fed panels are more stringent than the typical end-fed design. The PV breaker is sized 125% of the inverter's rated output, so a 30 A breaker would be too small. Derating the main to 150 A is the way to go if you want stay with a load-side connection.
        I have a 40a breaker installed on the new pv circuit. Thanks for the advice on the 150a, I think that's my only option at this point if I want to keep the current configuration.

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        • ShastaDuke
          Junior Member
          • Jan 2016
          • 8

          #5
          Originally posted by silversaver
          What City and State are you in? I have not heard anyone ever needed to de-rating a 200A service panel for just a 6.2kW system....
          Tehama county, ca. Evidently this is a common issue with center fed panels, I was totally unaware until the inspection today...

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          • inetdog
            Super Moderator
            • May 2012
            • 9909

            #6
            Originally posted by ShastaDuke

            Tehama county, ca. Evidently this is a common issue with center fed panels, I was totally unaware until the inspection today...
            What NEC cycle (year) are you on?
            For 2011 and earlier you must use the breaker size when doing the 120% calculation, and I believe for the 100% (center fed) calculation too. For 2014 you must use the rated inverter output times 125% instead. That will usually give you a little more headroom if you fall just a fraction above a standard breaker size and have to go to the next one up.
            SunnyBoy 3000 US, 18 BP Solar 175B panels.

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            • silversaver
              Solar Fanatic
              • Jul 2013
              • 1390

              #7
              Originally posted by ShastaDuke

              Tehama county, ca. Evidently this is a common issue with center fed panels, I was totally unaware until the inspection today...
              Got ya. I did not read about the center fed...

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              • ShastaDuke
                Junior Member
                • Jan 2016
                • 8

                #8
                Originally posted by inetdog
                What NEC cycle (year) are you on?
                For 2011 and earlier you must use the breaker size when doing the 120% calculation, and I believe for the 100% (center fed) calculation too. For 2014 you must use the rated inverter output times 125% instead. That will usually give you a little more headroom if you fall just a fraction above a standard breaker size and have to go to the next one up.
                Thanks for the info, I believe it's 2011 NEC. I'm moving forward with the 150A service breaker, should be here mid week.

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