Solar system in Las Vegas

[SunEagle]

Wow ! you take out a link that just had full information/disclosure about the blue raven marketing post above
but let the original blatant marketing post stand with no issues. Nice !

Your board, your rules I guess.

P.S : Just to clarify, I am not a competing installer or solar company trying to take business from blueraven or anyone.

The post by gogreenmakegreen provided just a company name and some information but did not have a direct link to their website or any other information like phone numbers or an email address.

I was watching the poster and would have informed them of any infraction if any future posts included hard links.

IMO while you were trying to point out a problem you (thank you) you accidentally created one with that link. I hope you understand my action and continue to partake in the forum.

[8.4]

My brother's in Vegas. This will give him a clue to oricing starts. Thanks.

[lanb]

Mod note: Actually you have violated the forum rules by attaching that advertisement link.

Wow ! you take out a link that just had full information/disclosure about the blue raven marketing post above
but let the original blatant marketing post stand with no issues. Nice !

Your board, your rules I guess.

P.S : Just to clarify, I am not a competing installer or solar company trying to take business from blueraven or anyone.

[lanb]

Ad

@BlueRavenSolar -

1) I believe you are violating the no-ad policy of this forum

2) Instead of all the marketing jargon, why don't you call it as it is - a loan at 6.5% interest with first year of no interest and payments


Mod note: Actually you have violated the forum rules by attaching that advertisement link.

[gogreenmakegreen]

Own your system for free Its true and real

Looking to go solar for a 11500 kWh/year capacity system.

Here are the initial quotes I have gotten

6.72 DC kW with 21 Solarworld 320 panels with Solaredge inverter producing 11503 kWh/year - $21,821 ($3.24/kWh)
Warranty is 10/10

5.886 DC kW with 18 SunPower 327 panels with SMA inverter producing 11118 kWh/year - $25,528 ($4.33/kWh)
Warranty is 25/25

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Now the questions -

1) Does that look like fair pricing ?
2) The installer mentioned that Solarworld 320's are way back ordered and wants to substitute with 280's (more panels).
He said that 280's are built with better cells. True or False ?
3) I have been reading about the risk of solarworld proprietary optimizers and what happens if they go out of business.
Is it possible to install solarworld panels without optimizers and just a string inverter ?

Thanks for all the helpful info here !

You do not have to pay. I am an Executive Analyst with Blue Raven Solar . You will have 3rd party warranty, maintenance, monitoring. With full ownership of your panels and federal and state incentives also your rec's (Renewable energy credits) will give more detailed information.


The process is as simple as submitting your utility bill , generating a custom proposal in 30 mins based on your wattage usage, and home diameters(satellites). Once approved and signed installation states when you set the date and it takes a days The most. Dividend Solar has investors that are funding the cost of the system for each customer with a credit score of 650 or more.

Your only Obligation is to pay your electrical bill after the first year of Free energy. Which may be as little as $29 for life. No other company has this financing structure because we created it.

Blue Raven Solar pays for all marketing, fees and we pay you the customer $250 or more for every referral . Sweet!!!!

It sounds too good to be true but is 100% True and rewarding. Do not be locked into a 20 year lease . You will NOT own the panels or your cash incentives .

IT BELONGS TO SOLAR CITY, SUN RUN OR ANYONE ELSE YOU CHOOSE..

I am happy to assist you will all of your solar needs

[lanb]

Yeah I was wondering about that too - putting two strings of 11 each unless there is some max wattage reason.

Like you said, I would think the west (8) would all be one string and the south (14) would be on another string.

One question - what is the max number of 280W panels that the SB7000 can support on one string ?

[inetdog]

The one thing that I have to contribute to the process is that you should not, unless using micros or optimizers, put panels with different facing directions in one string.
You will have to have unmatched string sizes and the inverter must accept that imbalance between the inputs.
In addition, of course, the two strings will not be at max production at the same time, so you may be able to run with a smaller inverter than the straight sum of panel wattages would suggest.

[lanb]

Inverter question

After deciding to move away from the optimizer/micro inverters , I got another quote for solarworld panels with string SMA inverter.

Here are the specs :

22 280W SolarWorld panels connected to an SMA SB7000US-12 inverter for 6.2kW DC system producing 10,800 kwH/year

Now , after reading the posts here, I am thinking that using a SMA SB7000TL-US-22 would be better than
the SB7000US-12 because 14 of the panels will be on the south and 8 on the west (2 strings of 11 panels).

The designer/installer says that "the string sizing is not as versatile and doesn't work as well for the
TL series as it does for the US-12" and the US-12 will accept multiple strings and will work fine for this setup.

I also came across this - sunny-design-polystring-configuration/.

Here is the compare of the various SB7000 - SB 7000 compare

Am I overthinking the dual MPPT advantage ? Is a SMA SB7000US-12 good enough for my situation ?

Comments ?

[paul65k]

BTW, I ran pvwatts and a 6 to 6.5 kwh system is what is required for my usage.

On another note, some of the companies in Las Vegas are promoting sunpower panels claiming that
the surface metal on the other panels are bad for the LV heat due to constant expansion and contraction.

Any truth to that, which warrants the higher premium for SP ?

Solarix - Can you check your PM please ?

I've said this before and I'll say it again;

As long as you are using quality products and have a quality system installed there is no need to pay a premium for supposedly "Highest" quality panels for the following reasons:

• Your utility will make no differentiation in the amount of credit you receive for power produced coming from a premium panel
• When/if you go to sell your home no one will pay you more for your "Highest" quality panels, the value will be strictly associated with your recent/past experience of what your bills look like at that point in time.
• Warranties are only as good as the company and industry as a whole do in general and NO ONE can say for sure what any of the current companies will look like once the government subsidies get realistic from a purely business perspective........I personally like companies that do more than just Solar (LG comes to mind) but who really knows......companies that were once dominant in the field and part of much larger companies (Sharp as an example) are now out of the residential solar business so who really knows for sure.

I for one think the best advice is to find an installer that has the best track record...........not to be confused with having the best salespeople. Talk to at least 5 of their installed customers who have at least 2 year old installations and see what they have to say about the claims made by the salespeople.........solarreviews.com is a good place to start and 1:1 contact with previous clients is even better

[lanb]

BTW, I ran pvwatts and a 6 to 6.5 kwh system is what is required for my usage.

On another note, some of the companies in Las Vegas are promoting sunpower panels claiming that
the surface metal on the other panels are bad for the LV heat due to constant expansion and contraction.

Any truth to that, which warrants the higher premium for SP ?

Solarix - Can you check your PM please ?

[lanb]

Thanks for the upvote and not deleting my posts

I was on the fence about this but then had to send a PM and was just 3 posts short !

[inetdog]

Manufacturing post count 10 !

Hurray !!

Congratulations lanb, although some Moderators might take exception to your method of running up the count and delete some of the duplicates, putting you back below 10.

[lanb]

Manufacturing post count 10 !

Hurray !!

[lanb]

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[lanb]

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