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  • SolarFamilyGuy
    Member
    • Aug 2015
    • 77

    #16
    Here is the final bill report prepared by legislative staff for the use of legislative members in their deliberations.
    S.B 5136: Home owners associations governing documents solar energy panels signed into law 7/26/2009


    FINAL BILL REPORT
    SSB 5136
    C 51 L 09
    Synopsis as Enacted
    Brief Description: Regulating the use of solar energy panels by members of homeowners'
    associations.
    Sponsors: Senate Committee on Financial Institutions, Housing & Insurance (originally
    sponsored by Senators Hobbs, Rockefeller, Fairley, Tom, Marr, Fraser, McDermott, Shin,
    Sheldon, McAuliffe, Jacobsen, Kline and Hatfield).
    Senate Committee on Financial Institutions, Housing & Insurance
    House Committee on Judiciary
    Background: Homeowners' associations generally levy and collect assessments, manage
    and maintain common property for the benefit of the residents, and enforce covenants that
    govern developments. The authority to carry out these functions comes from governing
    documents such as the declaration of covenants, conditions, and restrictions.
    Restrictive covenants are recorded in property deeds and may regulate such broad issues as
    the architectural designs of homes, schemes of landscaping, the size of mailboxes, and the
    placement of satellite dishes or antennas. A person who purchases property within a
    subdivision governed by a homeowner's association and subject to restrictive covenants
    becomes a member of the association and generally must abide by the restrictive covenants.
    Summary: Homeowners' associations' governing documents may not prohibit the
    installation of solar energy panels by an owner or resident on the owner's or resident's
    property, as long as it meets applicable health and safety standards and other requirements
    determined by the type of solar panel. Solar water heaters must be certified by a nationally
    recognized certification agency, and electricity-producing solar panels must meet certain
    safety and performance standards, including those set by the national electric code,
    accredited laboratories, and rules of the utilities and transportation commission for safety and
    reliability.
    The governing documents may include some reasonable rules and regulations regarding the
    placement and aesthetic impact of solar energy panels, including restricting visibility,
    requiring painting, or requiring shielding of a ground mounted panel if doing so is
    economically feasible and does not reduce operating quality by more than 10 percent. The
    governing documents may also require owners or residents installing solar panels to
    indemnify or reimburse the association or its members for any loss or damage caused by
    installation, maintenance, or use of the solar panel, and may restrict or prevent installation of
    solar panels in common areas.
    This prohibition applies retroactively and renders any inconsistent section of an existing
    homeowner's association's governing documents void and unenforceable.
    Votes on Final Passage:
    Senate 45 0
    House 62 35
    Effective: July 26, 2009
    Senate
    Attached Files

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    • foo1bar
      Solar Fanatic
      • Aug 2014
      • 1833

      #17
      Originally posted by SolarFamilyGuy
      If my HOA tries to dictate where my West facing solar panels should be installed, I could come back with this statement directly from the law.
      You probably want to try a little less confrontational approach.

      IF it were me, I'd volunteer to be available for their Arch. subcommitttee meeting. I'd tell the board that I would be happy to answer any questions they might have and help them understand what I'm planning to do.
      If after that we weren't able to come to a reasonable compromise (ie. painting conduit, etc. to match roof/walls) - would I even bring up SB5136. And then I'd say something more along the lines of "I think you need to review my request and SB5136 with the HOA's legal counsel. My understanding of this law is that you can't deny my request on these grounds. How many days will you need to consult with him/her and get back to me?"

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      • diogenes
        Solar Fanatic
        • Jul 2015
        • 175

        #18
        doggone I was dancing on the ceiling, until I found out it was Washington State

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        • SolarFamilyGuy
          Member
          • Aug 2015
          • 77

          #19
          I have been on my HOA board 2 times since I moved in. I know everybody on the board minus two people. I have heard through the grape vine that my HOA board has recognized my right and the law already. I just have one person who is emotional and is throwing a fit. I am supposed to find out today sometime what my HOA decides. Honestly, my HOA is very tame compared to most. Every issue I have had with them, they have listened and authorized it. I have a 100% track record with them and I feel that this will also be approved.

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          • SolarFamilyGuy
            Member
            • Aug 2015
            • 77

            #20
            Originally posted by diogenes
            doggone I was dancing on the ceiling, until I found out it was Washington State
            Have you looked at your state law for any law dating back to 2009? All laws preventing HOA's from interfearing with solar panel installation came from H.R.2454 American Clean Energy and Security Act of 2009. While This federal law did not specifically talk about HOA's, it did require each state to pass laws specifically prohibiting HOA's from preventing solar installation onto your home while living under governing documents (HOA). Apparently more than half of the homes in the USA are govern under some sort of HOA documents. This is why HOA's were specifically targeted by federal and state law.

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            • newe70
              Member
              • Aug 2015
              • 78

              #21
              I am about to go through the HOA approval process. My HOA stated it would takes up to 4 to 5 weeks for them review and approval. I am the first one in my community to go solar also. Just hoping for an easy approval process.

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              • diogenes
                Solar Fanatic
                • Jul 2015
                • 175

                #22
                Originally posted by SolarFamilyGuy
                Have you looked at your state law for any law dating back to 2009? All laws preventing HOA's from interfearing with solar panel installation came from H.R.2454 American Clean Energy and Security Act of 2009. While This federal law did not specifically talk about HOA's, it did require each state to pass laws specifically prohibiting HOA's from preventing solar installation onto your home while living under governing documents (HOA). Apparently more than half of the homes in the USA are govern under some sort of HOA documents. This is why HOA's were specifically targeted by federal and state law.

                Did hr 2454 actually pass the senate, IIRC it contained cap and trade and the senate did not pass it.

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                • foo1bar
                  Solar Fanatic
                  • Aug 2014
                  • 1833

                  #23
                  Originally posted by diogenes
                  Did hr 2454 actually pass the senate, IIRC it contained cap and trade and the senate did not pass it.
                  You're right.

                  To create clean energy jobs, achieve energy independence, reduce global warming pollution and transition to a clean energy economy.

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                  • SolarFamilyGuy
                    Member
                    • Aug 2015
                    • 77

                    #24
                    WOO-effing-HOO!! I got approved. This is what I got back from my HOA.

                    Dear Association Owner:
                    Thank you for submitting your request for architectural approval. The Fairfield Owners Association Architectural Review Committee has approved your request (see notes below).
                    Modification: The ARC Committee appreciates your courtesy disclosure regarding solar panels install on your roof. As you mention in your 8/22/15 email, neither the ARC Committee nor the Association may deny this installation.

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                    • diogenes
                      Solar Fanatic
                      • Jul 2015
                      • 175

                      #25
                      congrats now on to the insurance company hassles....

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                      • SolarFamilyGuy
                        Member
                        • Aug 2015
                        • 77

                        #26
                        What insurance company and what hassle are you talking about?

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                        • diogenes
                          Solar Fanatic
                          • Jul 2015
                          • 175

                          #27
                          rather not name company names, but my insurance company wanted me to take out a very expensive ( almost $1,000/yr) commercial policy to cover a residential installation, I am changing companies now.

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                          • SolarFamilyGuy
                            Member
                            • Aug 2015
                            • 77

                            #28
                            My insurance company quoted me $100 extra for my 9.8kw array. Currently $793 annual home insurance policy will increase to $893 annual for everything including earthquake insurance and solar system with $1,000 deductible.

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                            • foo1bar
                              Solar Fanatic
                              • Aug 2014
                              • 1833

                              #29
                              Originally posted by SolarFamilyGuy
                              My insurance company quoted me $100 extra for my 9.8kw array. Currently $793 annual home insurance policy will increase to $893 annual for everything including earthquake insurance and solar system with $1,000 deductible.
                              Mine was similar - I think it was $70 extra for the ~$30k in extra coverage - but I don't recall if that was 1x$70/year or 2x$70/year.
                              Either way I think it was reasonable. Took me all of ~5 minutes on the phone with my agent and writing a check a week or so later when I got the bill in the mail.
                              I did have to give him a value on it - I went with ~$3.50/W because I'm not going to want to do this project again in next N years.

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