Water Tank vs Battery Bank ?

[MarineLiner]

Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 6:11 PM

Water Hammer Effect to Increase Water Turbine Efficiency
* Basanta Lamichhane <@gmail.com> Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 6:11 PM

Dear sir,

I have discussed with my team about the design of system as per our
discussion. However, we have not finalized any design yet. *We are
busy to design and testing francis turbine for Micro Hydro power.

If any progress happens, I will inform you.

Thank you for your interest about this.

With best regards,

Basanta Raj Lamichhane

[MarineLiner]

REPLY:[QUOTE]It takes near about two months to design and manufacture the pico turbine.
We have not test this type of double jet turbine in Ram pump as you think till date.
As you stated above, this is small testing unit

[MarineLiner]

Could be a Hope

REPLY: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 12:13:59 +0000

Thanks to share your plan in brief.
We can design that type of double jet small turbine for ram pump which creates the Water Hammer Effect and certain lifting head may be increased.
We can design small turbine for testing as you think.

[MarineLiner]

3rd Try

REPLY:

I think you are going to design the pico hydro turbine for increase the efficiency of ram pump.
In N***l, we generally design the pico hydro turbine to generate the electricity connecting with generator.

To design the pico hydro turbine, the water discharge (liter per second) and water pressure (Water falls from the certain vertical head through the penstock pipe { in your case water pressure from the outlet of ram pump}) should be known.
The size and type of the turbine depends up on this two data.
If you provide me this data, I will help you to design the turbine.

If the pressure of the water in to turbine from nozzle is minimum, the efficiency of the turbine is low.

[MarineLiner]

Double Nozzles to be used as turbo charger


This type has 2 nozzles that i want to use them as:

[MarineLiner]

Get someone to do the calculations for you.
The numbers you are considering are not real.

[russ]

Get someone to do the calculations for you. The numbers you are considering are not real.

If it were so easy every hydroelectric project in the world would be considering such a thing - that would be 1000's of gW

[Mike90250]

Cant work. A pulsing stream of water ( from the ram pump) will not get the turbine up to speed. Inertia works aginast you. Sorry.

Or just build it, and prove me wrong.

[MarineLiner]

..... then that tank can feed your turbine for a couple houers a day..

that's how I'd do it.

[russ]

Like Mike pointed out - there is a volume problem. From a previous post -

In very rough numbers, a 1000-gallon tank 100 feet high could store about 3-4 kWh

Lots of water at near 7 barg pressure and very little power.

[Mike90250]

micro/pico power turbines want high head pressure, and high flow rates, niether of which are avaiable from a Ram pump. What could be done, is a ram pump or several, pump up to an elevated storage tank, and then that tank can feed your turbine for a couple houers a day..

that's how I'd do it.

[MarineLiner]

Try #3

REPLY:

I think if it "just an idea" that it will be difficult to find someone to
produce it, especially if you have no previous experience in hydroelectric
turbine design. You are going to need to find an engineer who knows something about hydroelectric turbine design, who you can either pay to make a design for you or who will partner with you on this.
Alternatively, you
can buy one of these existing small turbines and start working on this
yourself by altering it.
If you have a working prototype you can maybe then
interest manufacturers or bankers.

[MarineLiner]

Another Try

Me:
"I need your help to design pico hydro turbine which use water hammer effect to increase efficiency."

Another friend:

Okey, of course. What type ( Impulse or reaction) and capacity ( in kW) of Pico hydro turbine you wish to design ?

Me:
"Thanks, I want to combine hydro ram pump and turbine like these:
1. Connect the exit valve of a hydro ram pump to the nozzle of turbine. Assume we have Fall : Drive ratio as 1:5 that required to generate the water hammer effect.
2. Connect the delivery of the ram pump to another nozzle of turbine.
By that, we get extra power created by the hammer effect to increase the turbine power. Hope you can catch what i meant."

[MarineLiner]

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[MarineLiner]

This hydro ram pump use water hammer which become stronger because of using air pressure tank.
What i want is to use the stronger power to rotate the turbine.
In other word, increasing efficiency, with the same volume of water, accelerated by the use of pressure tank we can creating/generating more power.