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  • anukfdo
    Junior Member
    • Oct 2013
    • 1

    #1

    Solar in New Jersey

    Hi all,

    I just had Solar City come to my house in New Jersey and give me a quote. Please see the attached proposal.
    SolarCity.pdf

    What do you think of this proposal and which plan would you pick if you had to choose between the PPA plans?

    Am I getting a good deal based on the numbers they have given me?

    I am planning on having SunPower come over and give me a proposal as well. I will post that when I get it.

    Location: NJ - Monmouth County
    Utility = JCPL

    Est Annual Production = 11,917 kWh
    Current annual usage = 12,131 kWh
    Est System: 9.00 kW DC
    See attached pdf for pricing proposals



    Thank you
  • ajpslp
    Member
    • May 2013
    • 81

    #2
    im in staten island and based on ur price it looks high compared to what i am getting installed in january. getting 36 sunpower panels, the 335's all black for $130 a month based on a 12.06 KW system.

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    • Naptown
      Solar Fanatic
      • Feb 2011
      • 6880

      #3
      Now take into account the NYSERDA
      Rebate that they you will get and not available in NJ
      Trying to compare lease or even purchase prices from state to state are difficult as local costs and incentives play a huge part of what systems cost
      NABCEP certified Technical Sales Professional

      [URL="http://www.solarpaneltalk.com/showthread.php?5334-Solar-Off-Grid-Battery-Design"]http://www.solarpaneltalk.com/showth...Battery-Design[/URL]

      [URL]http://www.calculator.net/voltage-drop-calculator.html[/URL] (Voltage drop Calculator among others)

      [URL="http://www.gaisma.com"]www.gaisma.com[/URL]

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      • sunmetrix
        Junior Member
        • May 2013
        • 8

        #4
        Hi anukfdo,

        I ran the numbers for your location (below), and their annual production estimate seems to be on the more conservative side. I get 12,000 - 13,000 kWh/year based on the system specs and location. Did they mention any issues with shading or any other expected issues? I'd be curious to know the annual production levels that the other installers will estimate.


        Oz
        Last edited by Naptown; 10-17-2013, 04:25 PM. Reason: Removed link

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        • NRGjason
          Junior Member
          • Oct 2013
          • 10

          #5
          thanks for the post.
          I am very interested to see what other quotes that you come up with.

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          • Ampericon
            Junior Member
            • Oct 2013
            • 12

            #6
            Solar PPA choices

            Chances are that electricity prices will increase over time - however it isn't a guarantee that they will. If it were my house I would opt for the plan that locks in the fixed rate without the escalator. This way you have a greater chance to always be saving money and less than the JCP&L rate. The output levels they proposed to me seem aggressive and high. You can run this PV watts simulator which is required by all developers in NJ when submitting paperwork > http://rredc.nrel.gov/solar/calculat...ey/Newark.html and change "DC Rating (kW):" to "9" and click calculate to see your yearly output. Read the fine print - because if the payment is based on the output and the output is high then the price per kWh could be artificially low. A guarantee of output may state 90% of estimation. If you only pay for what is produced then you have no problems. Your roof looks like a good fit for solar.
            Adam

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            • Naptown
              Solar Fanatic
              • Feb 2011
              • 6880

              #7
              Originally posted by Ampericon
              Chances are that electricity prices will increase over time - however it isn't a guarantee that they will. If it were my house I would opt for the plan that locks in the fixed rate without the escalator. This way you have a greater chance to always be saving money and less than the JCP&L rate. The output levels they proposed to me seem aggressive and high. You can run this PV watts simulator which is required by all developers in NJ when submitting paperwork > http://rredc.nrel.gov/solar/calculat...ey/Newark.html and change "DC Rating (kW):" to "9" and click calculate to see your yearly output. Read the fine print - because if the payment is based on the output and the output is high then the price per kWh could be artificially low. A guarantee of output may state 90% of estimation. If you only pay for what is produced then you have no problems. Your roof looks like a good fit for solar.
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              [URL="http://www.solarpaneltalk.com/showthread.php?5334-Solar-Off-Grid-Battery-Design"]http://www.solarpaneltalk.com/showth...Battery-Design[/URL]

              [URL]http://www.calculator.net/voltage-drop-calculator.html[/URL] (Voltage drop Calculator among others)

              [URL="http://www.gaisma.com"]www.gaisma.com[/URL]

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              • jackflack
                Junior Member
                • Jan 2014
                • 1

                #8
                so true

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                • itnetpro
                  Member
                  • Oct 2013
                  • 49

                  #9
                  Yea I checked that company out when I was researching Solar for my house in the Philadelphia area. I won't say any more other then take a very close looks at them. They use 3rd party contractors as well and I prefer a company that uses its own people. Some great sources, BBB, Angies List, simple online search. I decided in the end not to do a lease and went with another regional company instead that does not do leasing any longer. Great reputation, great warranty, use their own people and the panels they suggested are the best price/value panels on the market so they were a no brainer. They even have 20 year coverage to remove and replace your panels if you need to replace your roof or you move. They were not the cheapest but had best deal around.

                  If you want to know who I used private PM me or do a search for other post I have done on this forum.

                  John

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                  • tbird100
                    Junior Member
                    • Feb 2014
                    • 1

                    #10
                    Solar City

                    Did you end up signing up with Solar City? Did you negotiate?

                    Originally posted by anukfdo
                    Hi all,

                    I just had Solar City come to my house in New Jersey and give me a quote. Please see the attached proposal.
                    [ATTACH]3317[/ATTACH]

                    What do you think of this proposal and which plan would you pick if you had to choose between the PPA plans?

                    Am I getting a good deal based on the numbers they have given me?

                    I am planning on having SunPower come over and give me a proposal as well. I will post that when I get it.

                    Location: NJ - Monmouth County
                    Utility = JCPL

                    Est Annual Production = 11,917 kWh
                    Current annual usage = 12,131 kWh
                    Est System: 9.00 kW DC
                    See attached pdf for pricing proposals



                    Thank you

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                    • dssnj
                      Junior Member
                      • Feb 2014
                      • 5

                      #11
                      Originally posted by tbird100
                      Did you end up signing up with Solar City? Did you negotiate?
                      same question here?

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                      • Mr. Vegas
                        Member
                        • Jan 2014
                        • 32

                        #12
                        I reviewed your quote. The numbers are high for what you are being provided. SolarCity was one of the first ones that quoted me, I ended up going with Trinity, they provide a lot more for the lease payment. I just signed a 10kw system (lease | no escalator) for $146 a month (fixed for 20 years). You should be able to get an even better or similar price in NJ, while NYSERDA helps out quite a bit, NJ has some incentive programs as well.



                        Originally posted by anukfdo
                        Hi all,

                        I just had Solar City come to my house in New Jersey and give me a quote. Please see the attached proposal.
                        [ATTACH]3317[/ATTACH]

                        What do you think of this proposal and which plan would you pick if you had to choose between the PPA plans?

                        Am I getting a good deal based on the numbers they have given me?

                        I am planning on having SunPower come over and give me a proposal as well. I will post that when I get it.

                        Location: NJ - Monmouth County
                        Utility = JCPL

                        Est Annual Production = 11,917 kWh
                        Current annual usage = 12,131 kWh
                        Est System: 9.00 kW DC
                        See attached pdf for pricing proposals



                        Thank you

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                        • muskulitos
                          Junior Member
                          • Aug 2014
                          • 1

                          #13
                          Great Information

                          I am not in the process of getting solar panels yet but I am looking into this process with homeowners like me.

                          Thank you all...

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                          • nomorecoal
                            Junior Member
                            • Aug 2014
                            • 16

                            #14
                            Quote is high

                            The quote is high and there is definite room for improvement.

                            Since I am in Maryland, they quoted me for full prepay plan @ 6.7 kWh which I trying to negotiate down even further.

                            Also, bear in mind that SolarCity is expensive when it comes to outright purchase. So while in this quote, full prepay might look attractive; if you with other providers, you might be able to purchase the system for something closer to $18k.

                            Therefore, unless they improve their quote, my recommendation is to get quotes from other installers and then compare the price.

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                            • Gooser711
                              Junior Member
                              • Aug 2015
                              • 1

                              #15
                              Originally posted by nomorecoal
                              The quote is high and there is definite room for improvement.

                              Since I am in Maryland, they quoted me for full prepay plan @ 6.7 kWh which I trying to negotiate down even further.

                              Also, bear in mind that SolarCity is expensive when it comes to outright purchase. So while in this quote, full prepay might look attractive; if you with other providers, you might be able to purchase the system for something closer to $18k.

                              Therefore, unless they improve their quote, my recommendation is to get quotes from other installers and then compare the price.
                              First post so I can actually see the PDF quote...

                              I have a Honda FIT EV so I might be looking into SolarCity in NJ myself, as they supposedly have an agreement together to sweeten the deal with an additional discount. It looks like they really push the Lease or PPA options ahead of the purchasing option though. So if they artificially increase the outright purchase option to push people into Lease or PPA, I'll probably have to look elsewhere.

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