Easy Peasy grid tie for the home owner ....

[lkruper]

You know, about 6 months ago I would have thought this product from Amazon (http://www.amazonDOTcom/gp/product/B00N0T52TW?keywords=grid%20tie%20solar%20panel&qid =1444594778&ref_=sr_1_5&sr=8-5) was the best thing since sliced bread. And then I started reading this forum ....

[inetdog]

including UL approval reference of solar panel and grid tie inverter.

UL "approval" ???
Everything could well be listed except for that pesky cord and plug connection.
And I doubt that most POCOs would give any weight to their connection diagram.

[lkruper]

UL "approval" ???
Everything could well be listed except for that pesky cord and plug connection.
And I doubt that most POCOs would give any weight to their connection diagram.

Its on the internet so it must be true

[J.P.M.]

You know, about 6 months ago I would have thought this product from Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...=sr_1_5&sr=8-5) was the best thing since sliced bread. And then I started reading this forum ....

Yea. This forum is a real wet blanket sometimes. Reality bites.

[Mike90250]

Is the inverter UL 1741 certified ?

Not likely, so not grid tie legal in the USA

[inetdog]

Is the inverter UL 1741 certified ?

Not likely, so not grid tie legal in the USA

I bet it has a UL-listed power cord though. With a UL (or backwards RU) sticker on it.

[SunEagle]

Unfortunately anyone looking at those micro inverters start to believe they can build a simple pv system and "plug in" or even "hard wire" into their main panel without going through an agreement procedure with their POCO.

The way the install is explained is very simple but lacks any reference to following NEC or POCO requirements. And with some people being so eager to "reduce their electric bill" or "be green" they will quickly jump at the chance to purchase and install a similar system without realizing the consequences.

[Mike90250]

I'm closing this thread with the following statement:

In the USA, there are NO (none) UL 1741 inverters certified to be "plugged into an outlet".

It can certainly be done, just like anyone could go to a marina, and get 5 gallons of un-taxed boat gas, and fill their car with it. But it's not legal.
If your power company sees it, they will disconnect you. In most cities, if you don't have electrical power at your house, the City can "red tag" the house.

Please, anyone, give me the UL reg. number for a plug-in GT inverter for USA.

Till then, this Forum cannot endorse an illegal and unsafe activity.

[SunEagle]

I'm closing this thread with the following statement:

In the USA, there are NO (none) UL 1741 inverters certified to be "plugged into an outlet".

It can certainly be done, just like anyone could go to a marina, and get 5 gallons of un-taxed boat gas, and fill their car with it. But it's not legal.
If your power company sees it, they will disconnect you. In most cities, if you don't have electrical power at your house, the City can "red tag" the house.

Please, anyone, give me the UL reg. number for a plug-in GT inverter for USA.

Till then, this Forum cannot endorse an illegal and unsafe activity.

Don't forget to delete the links to that crap.

[lkruper]

Don't forget to delete the links to that crap.

Your are the mods, but I don't possibly see how anyone could view this thread and get anything but good solid reasons why the product is poorly advertised and dangerous.

[SunEagle]

Your are the mods, but I don't possibly see how anyone could view this thread and get anything but good solid reasons why the product is poorly advertised and dangerous.

Sorry. I meant that comment as being sarcastic but forgot to change the font to Comic Sans MS and add my blue smiley face.

[lkruper]

Sorry. I meant that comment as being sarcastic but forgot to change the font to Comic Sans MS and add my blue smiley face.

I knew you had a sense of humor, but I have grown accustomed to seeing the Comic font!

[SunEagle]

I knew you had a sense of humor, but I have grown accustomed to seeing the Comic font!

I'm just getting old.

[lkruper]

I'm just getting old.

Its not the age, its the mileage

[inetdog]

Its not the age, its the mileage

Its not the sage, its the smileage