PVWatts vs. CSI Calculator = Way Off

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  • cebury
    Solar Fanatic
    • Sep 2011
    • 646

    #1

    PVWatts vs. CSI Calculator = Way Off

    I ran PVWatts, which gave VERY different Estimate KWH results than the CSI De-Rating/Incentive Calculator.

    PVWATTS Input has:
    * AC rating (de-rated from value-input off the DC rating)
    * Zip Code to gather SunHours (PV-Watts was sent 5.8 for my zip).
    * Tilt & Azimuth

    To attempt Identical Calculations:
    * Set PVWatts DC-AC-Derate Factor so both AC ratings are the same between the two sites (so PVwatts = CSI-epbb ac-cec rating it calculated based on my panels+inverter).
    * Same Zip code, Tilt (22 deg) and Azimuth (180) used on both sites.

    The CSI site allows you to de-rate for shading in each month, but even when I factor that in PVWATTS is over 3000 annual kwh in excess.

    Is PVWatts "averaging" for shading or something we're not able to see or adjust? I guess the CSI site could be doing the same thing for SunHours, but the rest of the input factors you either see what it's doing or can control.
  • cebury
    Solar Fanatic
    • Sep 2011
    • 646

    #2
    Of course after I type that all up I think I found out why: PVWatts attempts a more thorough de-rating factor (info at: http://www.nrel.gov/rredc/pvwatts/ch...ers.html#dc2ac) for wiring,soiling, etc to default to .77. The value I entered was .86 to adjust it to the CSI site (which is AC-CEC, obviously not the same). The CSI De-Rating calculation gets closer by factoring in tilt, azimuth, and shading, but stops there. So by taking the CSI Rating then adjusting for the 6 factors that pvwatts is adjusting for (using defaults) that makes my proposed system DERATE = .71, below the default .77. Which I think? makes sense for fairly inefficient Yingli 235 panels.

    That makes the two numbers only off by 200 annual kwh.

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