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  • bcroe
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    Originally posted by Rade
    Those are very good numbers! So my question is; you
    said you gifted 5,600kW back to the PoCo. Did the PoCo wipe your credits to
    zero on your interconnect anniversary? Rade
    I started out pretty obsessive about energy consumption
    when I moved here in 2004. I tracked down every load on
    some 60 circuits, and was eventually able to eliminate some
    240W of Vampire loads, coming to some 2100 kWh a year.
    Many of these loads were outside the house (garage door
    opener, attic fan, etc), so they did not even contribute at an
    inefficient level to heating the house. Many were reduced
    from 4 or 15W, to well under 1W. All this was done before
    going solar in 2013. In 2018 use of mini split heat pumps
    allowed adding in without energy purchases, some items
    previously not allowed, including frequent air circulation
    thru my electronic air filter, a summer time dehumidifier,
    and continuously warming a shop building.

    I did not give the PoCo back 5600 kW, the most power I can
    generate is 15kW. I did accumulate an energy surplus of
    5600 kWHOURs by the (April 2) reset day, which means
    starting the next Net Metering year at zero under my plan.
    Surplus is a gift to the PoCo, not to worry as it cost me
    nothing extra to generate. This is a zero carbon footprint,
    zero energy purchase operation, not a for profit. Bruce Roe
    Last edited by bcroe; 04-16-2024, 09:21 AM.

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  • Mike 134
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    Northern Illinois ComEd is the power company for me. If i have a surplus on my April bill it just goes POOF!!! Not even a thank you for the free KWHs from the power company. Then the "new year" starts again building credits (I hope).

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  • Rade
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    Those are very good numbers! So my question is; you said you gifted 5,600kW back to the PoCo. Did the PoCo wipe your credits to zero on your interconnect anniversary?

    I'm coming up on my 1st anniversary on May 10; I'm kinda hesitant to celebrate for the moment. As I often complain, our house is a bit of a power hog and right now, I am at a 1,220kW deficit if we are going to break even next winter. But the weather is warming, the electric furnace has been turned off and our power meter is finally, consistently clicking downward (more power back to the grid than the house is using). >If< the weather continues to cooperate, we may make up that deficit by our anniversary. In May of last year, we generated 1,900kW of power (peak for the year).

    And that brings me back to my question - Our anniversary is on May 10. I'm wondering if any credits I am (finally) generating will be zeroed out at that time? No one in any know seems to be able to answer that; our PoCo website only states that my credits will continue to accrue and then be used towards standard billing once we have to begin pulling from the grid. I guess I will find out on May 12 when the next statement comes in. We churned through our credits by February.

    I think it was you who advised to just be patient; thank you! Yes, all in all, during the first 4 or so months, we had about a month total of new system configuration bugs that knocked our generation down during peak sun season. The bugs seem to have been worked out and our solar architecture has been running rather well for many months now. Looking forward to... not being so damn obsessive about power consumption.



    Rade

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  • bcroe
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    Net Metering year 11 concluded, generated about 28,800 kWh.
    Still running the original panels and inverters. With the relatively
    warm and somewhat less cloudy winter, the surplus was around
    5,600 kWh given as a gift to the PoCo. The only original wiring
    is the 220 ft buried DC conductors between the combiner box
    and the inverters. Bruce Roe

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  • Rade
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    Originally posted by Ampster

    POCO is Power Company.
    Merci!

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  • Ampster
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    Originally posted by Rade
    Question: What is a "POCO"? It's not an acronym I am familiar with.
    POCO is Power Company.

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  • Rade
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    Question: What is a "POCO"? It's not an acronym I am familiar with.

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  • bcroe
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    This has been a year of very little rain, but local farmers managed to
    get an average corn crop anyway. There were a lot of clouds that
    did not produce any rain, just hurt solar. As of 1 Nov NetMetering
    winter reserve matched my past best, 14,000 kWh. Usually it then
    starts to reduce, but record warm weather and a few more sunny
    days have it still holding 13 Nov. With any luck there will be plenty
    of kWh thru this winter. Equipment has been doing well since the
    switch repair.

    Bruce Roe

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  • PNPmacnab
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    Originally posted by bcroe

    Once again Nyle announced the e8 water heating heat pump adapter,
    might soon be available. It is still in the process of being Energy Star
    certified, UEF tested, UL tested, and other things. If I ever get one,
    the energy reserve might be exhausted, better than giving it away.

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    A friend of mine just got a e8 end of May and finally got around to installing it. He is quite impressed. He got build #4, just after the ones sent off for regulatory testing. So, I guess that is still experimental as it has no certification. Surprised it is a 120V unit with the market being primarily commercial. He uses it in singe pass full temperature output.

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  • bcroe
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    Originally posted by DanS26
    Bruce, I use silver conductive grease on every connection and a torque screwdriver or wrench. Not to be confused with dielectric grease. It’s expensive but we’ll worth it IMO. Use very sparingly as excess will short a circuit. If + and - are near each other.
    Never had a connection failure in my system.
    I am again bringing the main PV wiring into a more regular review,
    even using a temp gauge to check for a box heating up after a
    few hours at max power. I will be using some kind of terminal
    protection on everything now. And spare shutdown assemblies
    are prepared and sealed, just in case. The post mortum hints to
    me, the issue has been the aluminum terminal block that came
    bolted to the DC shutdown switch assembly. I am replacing all
    of these with copper terminal blocks + anti corrosion stuff.

    This year the big solar item is the smoke. Usually not so common
    here in nothern IL. Even smoke not looking so thick, has a big
    impact on solar energy. I am used to seeing the 15KW system
    peaked out for nearly 8 hours a day many times. But recently it
    has trouble getting up to the full 15KW capacity. Even when the
    sky is not cloudy, production might be down 20% or more. Still
    the array is fighting it, energy reserve is about 7.8MWh vs 8MWh
    best at this date.

    Then there is air quality, worst numbers I have ever seen. But
    smoke containts physical particulate, which my electronic air filter
    can remove no matter how small. The furnace blower operates it
    around 20 minutes every hour. This really works, even before the
    smoke, I could see that the dust particles in a beam of sun were
    way down. The overall PV system produces enough energy to
    allow this luxury (?) at no extra cost beyond cleaning the filter.
    The blower motor (a standardized direct drive) was recently
    replaced as the original was about to fail. All motor wires were
    the same, though I did need to touch up the impeller balance.

    Bruce Roe

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  • DanS26
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    Bruce, I use silver conductive grease on every connection and a torque screwdriver or wrench. Not to be confused with dielectric grease. It’s expensive but we’ll worth it IMO. Use very sparingly as excess will short a circuit. If + and - are near each other.

    Never had a connection failure in my system.

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  • Mike 134
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    Originally posted by bcroe
    After a decade the 15KW system here has again developed
    wiring problems. The twin 7.5KW inverters normally are a
    match to around 1%, but lately EAST was lagging some. A
    quick check with the clamp on DC ammeter indicated all
    strings were close to a match. More checking, after half a
    day running full power (that is up to 8 hours with this
    configuration) the EAST DC disconnect box was getting pretty
    warm.

    As usual I set up a night work light and waited for the darkness.
    Inside the Square D 361 box a 6 gauge wire looked like it
    was cooking its insulation. The 361 is rated 30A against
    the 22 I run, and 600VDC against my 400, 3 contact positions.
    Something about the plus array wire was making poor contact
    and getting ready to burn out. It was not my wire clamp screw.

    I had this same failure on another contact years ago, I had
    just moved the wires to the spare position. Something was
    not making good contact, not sure if it was the bolts holding
    metal together, or the switch contact. Is there a contact lube
    that should be used on these?

    Fortunately I have a lot of spare parts, and these boxes are
    designed so a few screws from the open door side allow
    replacing whole units. I found a nice switch section, made
    sure all its screws were pretty tight, and soon had it installed.
    Hand test today indicated proper cool operation.

    There are plenty of the 361 outdoor boxes on Evil Bay, some
    with 600V fuses (that I do not need), and some with just a
    switch. Bruce Roe PVburnedDC.jpg
    Is that brownish color light rust on the rivets? Perhaps some condensation over the past 10 years leading to the poor connection.

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  • bcroe
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    After a decade the 15KW system here has again developed
    wiring problems. The twin 7.5KW inverters normally are a
    match to around 1%, but lately EAST was lagging some. A
    quick check with the clamp on DC ammeter indicated all
    strings were close to a match. More checking, after half a
    day running full power (that is up to 8 hours with this
    configuration) the EAST DC disconnect box was getting pretty
    warm.

    As usual I set up a night work light and waited for the darkness.
    Inside the Square D 361 box a 6 gauge wire looked like it
    was cooking its insulation. The 361 is rated 30A against
    the 22 I run, and 600VDC against my 400, 3 contact positions.
    Something about the plus array wire was making poor contact
    and getting ready to burn out. It was not my wire clamp screw.

    I had this same failure on another contact years ago, I had
    just moved the wires to the spare position. Something was
    not making good contact, not sure if it was the bolts holding
    metal together, or the switch contact. Is there a contact lube
    that should be used on these?

    Fortunately I have a lot of spare parts, and these boxes are
    designed so a few screws from the open door side allow
    replacing whole units. I found a nice switch section, made
    sure all its screws were pretty tight, and soon had it installed.
    Hand test today indicated proper cool operation.

    There are plenty of the 361 outdoor boxes on Evil Bay, some
    with 600V fuses (that I do not need), and some with just a
    switch. Bruce Roe PVburnedDC.jpg

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  • bcroe
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    Here I am again, smoke from wild fires in the NW is sending haze over
    the IL area again. While not terribly severe, it is enough to cause the
    inverters to drop out of clipping (about 7600W each), to more like 7300
    or 7400W. Bruce Roe

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  • DanS26
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    I recently added an antenna to my mid-1800's barn with a very slick metal roof.........

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