Pool pump

[SWFLA]

My Jandy was full had to go with a 1/2" knockout mount. Those boards are stupid $$$!

[tyab]

"I use a a whole house protector on my pool subpanel "

What an excellent idea - I have the solar subpanel protected but never thought about the pool subpanel. I put in a Pentair Intelliflo XF 3HP in 2014 as part the initial pre solar energy reduction - works perfectly and cut my summer electricity bill by about $80/month with careful programming. I have an extra Square D QO2175SB not being used but not sure there is room for that - time to pop off that Pentair subpanel case and see what its insides look like.

[SunEagle]

TVS is what kills them. I use a a whole house protector on my pool subpanel and a MOV on the motor.

I agree that voltage spikes, dips and transients are the biggest enemy for electronic and motors. Adding some type of protection will save you in the long run.

[SWFLA]

TVS is what kills them. I use a a whole house protector on my pool subpanel and a MOV on the motor.

[max2k]

I did get a replacement bypass valve for our gas heater, so I would follow a similar course and create a search string. I just got caught unprepared and desperate to get it fixed and behind me. I will try harder next time, That's for sure.

What was the exact problem with VSP pump? I bought Pentair 011018 and from the description it sounds like modern brushless DC motor controlled by electronics so the only way that can fail is some overvoltage or manufacturing defect of course. Replacing old 2 speed pump and programming new one for slower speed for filtration cut my electric bill by probably $50-$70 / month and pump paid for itself within 8 months after utility rebate as I installed it myself. While hassle I can replace it every 3 year if it comes to it

[Logan5]

I did get a replacement bypass valve for our gas heater, so I would follow a similar course and create a search string. I just got caught unprepared and desperate to get it fixed and behind me. I will try harder next time, That's for sure.

[SunEagle]

I was wondering if it was something I could fix myself. Where is the replacement CB available to purchase? Only from Hayward?

Surprising if you know exactly what the part number is you can research it and purchase quality Hayward parts not from Hayward. I have been getting parts for my Hayward filter from Amazon and they are true Hayward parts without the markup.

[Logan5]

I was wondering if it was something I could fix myself. Where is the replacement CB available to purchase? Only from Hayward?

[SWFLA]

Indeed it is sad. We had high hopes of energy savings. Will cost much more in the end with VSP replacement.

Most likely the control board they can be purchased separately still pricey though

[jasonvr]

Hi jasonvr, sounds interesting my pool is roughly the same size I will look into it, can you tell me the approx. cost of the variable pump?

thanks graham

Sure, here's my entire breakdown (bought from PoolSupplyWorld):

Pump was on sale for 866 and then add on the mandatory threaded union for 29.99. I had one of their 5% off coupons (received for signing up for their mailing list I think). They also don't charge sales tax and shipping was free. Out the door the pump and union were 851.19. My PoCo offered a $150 rebate for installing a VS pump and Pentair had a $50 rebate going at the time bringing the cost down to 651.19. I sold my old single speed pump for $125 for a net of 526.19. I paid my pool guy $50 to help install it to qualify for the longer rebate, so back up to 576.19

Figure on some miscellaneous other things as well (PVC piping, a tool or two you don't have, PVC glue, etc). I ended up having to get an extra large set of channel lock pliers to deal with the 2in unions. Also got a heat gun so that I could reuse my Jandy valve (heat guns when used correctly can allow you to get glued PVC back out of fittings). Both came from Harbor Freight for dirt cheap and are now part of tool arsenal.

[Logan5]

Indeed it is sad. We had high hopes of energy savings. Will cost much more in the end with VSP replacement.

[SunEagle]

We had a Hayward VSP, it failed at the 3 yr mark, after the warranty ran out, of course. VSP energy savings WAS NICE, but they do not last as long as single or 2 spd pumps.

That is sad to hear that the VSP drive failed so quickly.

I wonder if the problem was due to poor power quality or too many start/stop cycles in a limited time frame. Both of those are the usually reason for VSP equipment failures.

[Logan5]

We had a Hayward VSP, it failed at the 3 yr mark, after the warranty ran out, of course. VSP energy savings WAS NICE, but they do not last as long as single or 2 spd pumps.

[astras]

Hi jasonvr, sounds interesting my pool is roughly the same size I will look into it, can you tell me the approx. cost of the variable pump?

thanks graham

[jasonvr]

If you're really interested in saving money/electricity, have you instead looked at replacing your current pump with something more energy efficient? Last year as part of my energy reduction efforts (long term prep for solar) I ripped out the Pentair single speed pump that came with the house and replaced it with an Intelliflo variable speed pump. With the deal I got (from a authorized dealer with a coupon), plus a Pentair rebate, and a rebate from my electric company, my pay off was less than a year. And that's not even factoring in that I sold the old pump on Craigslist.

Simply changing out the pump on my 40'x20' pool (~32,000 gallons) and setting a longer schedule at lower RPM saved me about 200kWh per month