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Originally posted by NEOH View PostThe Envoy-S measures the production watts and consumption watts using C/T''s and it controls the micro-inverters via power-line communications.
Enphase Family compatibility matrix
https://enphase.com/en-us/products-a...s/envoy/family
Originally posted by NEOH View PostEnvoy-S 50Hz
https://enphase.com/en-au/node/44349
Originally posted by NEOH View PostEnphase Distributors in France, none in Spain
https://enphase.com/en-us/global-partner-directory
And I still have no idea if zero feedback to the grid is possible with the M250.
I'm really at a loss what Enphase wants with Europe. Apparently they don't want much with Europe.
Well, I'll cook with butane gas bottles for the time being, and that 1.2 kW swimming pool pump will be powered for the time being by whatever Spain's Endesa burns, atom-splits, donkey-runs, ...
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Originally posted by NEOH View PostThe Envoy-S measures the production watts and consumption watts using C/T''s and it controls the micro-inverters via power-line communications.
I'm happy too if the Envoy can just shut them down one by one.
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Originally posted by rickj View Post
MATRIX
All 60Hz, no use in Europe!
Matrix - Yes, all 60Hz, BUT the matrix shows that the Envoy-S is compatible with the following inverters:
a) M215
b) M250
c) S230
d) S280
And the Envoy-S has a 50HZ version
And the S230 Inverter comes in a 50hz model.
https://enphase.com/sites/default/fi...DS-EN-AU_0.pdf
Just trying to find any 50Hz Enphase stuff is so difficult.
I think the EU distributors don't want website sales, you must work with them.
I am trying to find out if the Envoy-S:
a) shutdowns one entire inverter sequentially or
b) gradually scales-back AC outputComment
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The M215 has 50hz model
The M250 has 50hz model
Now does the Inverter support Zero Export via the Envoy-S ?
50 HZ UK (EU?) stuff ...
https://go.enphase.com/UK-Collateral.html
This page list the M215, M250 and Envoy-S together,
Implying that they work together.
Not 100% proof that M215 & M250 support "Zero Export" feature.
http://www.enphase-benelux.be/
Maybe the dealer will confirm?Last edited by NEOH; 07-04-2017, 12:59 AM.Comment
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Originally posted by rickj View Post
Those C/T's (Current Transformers) are an external part. The question is: can other inverters than the S-series, specifically the M250, be controlled by the Envoy to adapt their production?
I'm happy too if the Envoy can just shut them down one by one.Last edited by NEOH; 07-04-2017, 12:58 AM.Comment
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Thanks for the info NEOH!
Originally posted by NEOH View PostEnphase Distributors in France, none in Spain
https://enphase.com/en-us/global-partner-directory
I think I'll try contacting Enphase once more to find out if the M250 does what I hope it does, or if there are other options, like them delivering the "Australian" S270 in Europe too.Comment
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Originally posted by rickj View PostI think I'll try contacting Enphase once more to find out if the M250 does what I hope it does, or if there are other options, like them delivering the "Australian" S270 in Europe too.
And: "Note that Enphase free, live-agent tech support is for solar-professionals only.", while I'm just a professional.
I'll see if my intended dealer can get a confirmation that zero feedback is possible with M250.
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The Envoy-S metered will allow zero export with the M250. It controls the output by throttling production, not turning panels off. Production throttling logic is embedded in the microinverter... By default, the throttle is at the microinverter's rating 250 W for the M250), but the metered envoy can dynamically change that limit in response to the feedback from the C/T's .
The European version of enphase's site lists a 50 Hz 230 V Envoy-S Metered, along with the M-series microinverters, as you've found.CS6P-260P/SE3000 - http://tiny.cc/ed5ozxComment
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Originally posted by sensij View PostThe Envoy-S metered will allow zero export with the M250. It controls the output by throttling production, not turning panels off. Production throttling logic is embedded in the microinverter... By default, the throttle is at the microinverter's rating 250 W for the M250), but the metered envoy can dynamically change that limit in response to the feedback from the C/T's .
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Originally posted by rickj View Post
Thanks Sensij! That is very good news. Can you point me to something specific in the docs or specs that tells me this? I mean, I'm going to spend quite a lot of money, and it's a bit difficult to later say "oh, someone on a forum said so". Please don't be offended!
CS6P-260P/SE3000 - http://tiny.cc/ed5ozxComment
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Thanks neoh, sensij and rickj.
i hope this route of M250 with the envoy s-metered providing zero export works out. I am also now trying to find a supplier that can confirm this. No luck with the first one though. (cclcomponents in the uk). Which is listed on the Enphase website as a Global partner in their directory.Comment
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Shoot. On further review, it looks like it does in fact have to be S series. I'm sorry for the false hope.CS6P-260P/SE3000 - http://tiny.cc/ed5ozxComment
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I'm just told via Twitter by Enphase that "Hi Rick, for the moment this is not possible." - and I hadn't even mentioned the type of inverter.
Very frustrating. Now I still know nothing. And I'm not even from Barcelona!Last edited by rickj; 07-05-2017, 04:35 PM.Comment
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Originally posted by C.R.J. View PostThanks neoh, sensij and rickj.
i hope this route of M250 with the envoy s-metered providing zero export works out. I am also now trying to find a supplier that can confirm this. No luck with the first one though. (cclcomponents in the uk). Which is listed on the Enphase website as a Global partner in their directory.Comment
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