How do I connect my existing 3HP/3ph. Submersible pump to my Solar system.

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  • Rohinton Irani
    Junior Member
    • Feb 2016
    • 1

    How do I connect my existing 3HP/3ph. Submersible pump to my Solar system.

    I have 4Kof solar Panels in two groups of 2K,CONECTED to TWO MPPT 48V/40A.Charge Controllers in Parallel.Two Sets of 48V/200Ahr Batteries.
    At the moment all the above is conected to 3.5KVA Inverter.
    What more is needed to run my Motor ,and how do I wire it .
    I am talking 220 Volt system.
  • sensij
    Solar Fanatic
    • Sep 2014
    • 5074

    #2
    Fuses, motor starter, and lots of Sun. You might be able to get a couple hours of runtime midday from the panels, but keep it to less than an hour at night if you care about those batteries.
    CS6P-260P/SE3000 - http://tiny.cc/ed5ozx

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    • Sunking
      Solar Fanatic
      • Feb 2010
      • 23301

      #3
      You pray everyday, your batteries last another day. Unless you have a 3-phase Inverter, it will never work Even if you do have a 3-phase Inverter, doubt it will work at all because your batteries and Inverter are too small.
      Last edited by Sunking; 02-12-2016, 06:40 PM.
      MSEE, PE

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      • DanKegel
        Banned
        • Sep 2014
        • 2093

        #4
        There might be some related earlier discussions on this board, e.g. https://www.solarpaneltalk.com/forum...220v-1-hp-pump
        What model pump, and is it ok to run just during daylight?

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        • Mike90250
          Moderator
          • May 2009
          • 16020

          #5
          Can you read the nameplate of the motor and see what it's KVA rating is ?
          Your PV system could be rigged up to a VFD controller and maybe get the motor to spin, but you are nowhere near having enough power in the PV gear to allow the motor to do much work.

          3 HP is about 12kVA = 9.4Kw

          Powerfab top of pole PV mount (2) | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||
          || Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
          || VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A

          solar: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Solar
          gen: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Lister

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          • inetdog
            Super Moderator
            • May 2012
            • 9909

            #6
            Originally posted by Mike90250
            Can you read the nameplate of the motor and see what it's KVA rating is ?
            Your PV system could be rigged up to a VFD controller and maybe get the motor to spin, but you are nowhere near having enough power in the PV gear to allow the motor to do much work.

            3 HP is about 12kVA = 9.4Kw

            http://www.kc7hxc.us/links/calc/Powe...er%20Calc.html
            Actually Mike, what that site gave you was the kVA capacity required for a generator to start that size motor across the 60Hz line.
            What is needed here, given that a VFD will be used, is closer to 3 x 746 x 1.1 (assuming 90% efficiency in the motor). So more like 2500W. Assuming that the motor is running at full rated load to drive the pump. By throttling down the pump output the OP can get even lower power as a trade off for pumping slower.
            SunnyBoy 3000 US, 18 BP Solar 175B panels.

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            • Mike90250
              Moderator
              • May 2009
              • 16020

              #7
              VFD's are not magic, they create a lot of EMI and back EMF, and often need special suppressors in their wires to protect the Grid. I used generator starting capacity, to insure there would be enough power to run the motor. When I do solar, I round up, generously. However 9Kw vs 2.5Kw is a big difference, and it is ALWAYS up to the end user to insure that the engineer that designs the system, is capable of the job. I suspect there is some middle ground where the required power is actually going to be, 4 or 5 Kw
              Powerfab top of pole PV mount (2) | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||
              || Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
              || VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A

              solar: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Solar
              gen: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Lister

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