Is A DIY Solar Array Ground Mount Worth It?

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  • Zeigh
    Member
    • Aug 2012
    • 37

    #16
    Thanks for everyone's input so far...

    The IronRidge site mentioned is very well designed and seems to pump out all the technical documentation that I would need to make a building inspector happy (if that is actually possible). That free service alone is worth it, as one of the professional engineering quotes that I got just to do the calculations without drawings on my own design was $1500! I am still going to investigate a few more leads, but IronRidge or one of their competitors with similar free documentation is probably going to get my business.


    Peace,
    Dr. Z.

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    • J.P.M.
      Solar Fanatic
      • Aug 2013
      • 15036

      #17
      Originally posted by Zeigh
      Thanks for everyone's input so far...

      The IronRidge site mentioned is very well designed and seems to pump out all the technical documentation that I would need to make a building inspector happy (if that is actually possible). That free service alone is worth it, as one of the professional engineering quotes that I got just to do the calculations without drawings on my own design was $1500! I am still going to investigate a few more leads, but IronRidge or one of their competitors with similar free documentation is probably going to get my business.


      Peace,
      Dr. Z.
      Like I wrote, if the AHJ signs off on it you're good to go. Just read the fine print and know that the AHJ usually/often is only charged with checks for conformance to code(s), not necessarily suitability of design. One idea behind engineering design is safety with code conformance, not code compliance simply for its own sake.

      There is a difference.

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      • SunEagle
        Super Moderator
        • Oct 2012
        • 15166

        #18
        Originally posted by J.P.M.
        Like I wrote, if the AHJ signs off on it you're good to go. Just read the fine print and know that the AHJ usually/often is only charged with checks for conformance to code(s), not necessarily suitability of design. One idea behind engineering design is safety with code conformance, not code compliance simply for its own sake.

        There is a difference.
        Or as us non structural engineers say. Just add 50% more concrete in the foundation.

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        • JFinch57
          Solar Fanatic
          • Feb 2015
          • 159

          #19
          I did my own DIY ground mount with 45 panels using Unirac and 2" galvanized pipe. Unirac also gives all of the footing requirements, engineering, PE seal for your state, etc but my county didn't want any of it since it's not on the roof. Their configuration tool only allows for 4 high in landscape. When I realized that I would exceed the 12' maximum structure height due to my 55" ground slope over 60' I split the array in the middle and worked in 4' overhangs at each end to take up the missing panels, which are not really mounted to spec. I cross strapped them in the middle since they are portrait, also added 2 angled braces on the end with 3 that were not installed when the pictures were taken. I can tell you that pouring almost 5 yards of concrete with a powered concrete buggy took about 3 hours and the concrete company was not happy! Luckily they did not charge extra, which they could have. There were a lot of rocks and that caused the sonotubes not to be inline with each other, which is only cosmetic. Plan on using a laser level to determine the distance to the bottom of each hole so that when you cut the pipe the top is level. I pounded rocks at the bottom then put a small piece of cheap cedar fence to get a firm bottom. Should have put plastic bags around the sonotubes as a few collapsed before we could pour the cement and it wasn't fun digging them out at 40" with a fence post hole digger! Here are some pictures:Soar Panels Done2.jpgSolar Panels Rear2.jpgSolar Panels RearA.jpgSolar2.jpg
          Jeff, BSEE, 22.3KW, 45-240W w/M190, 46-260W w/M250

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          • SunEagle
            Super Moderator
            • Oct 2012
            • 15166

            #20
            Originally posted by JFinch57
            I did my own DIY ground mount with 45 panels using Unirac and 2" galvanized pipe. Unirac also gives all of the footing requirements, engineering, PE seal for your state, etc but my county didn't want any of it since it's not on the roof. Their configuration tool only allows for 4 high in landscape. When I realized that I would exceed the 12' maximum structure height due to my 55" ground slope over 60' I split the array in the middle and worked in 4' overhangs at each end to take up the missing panels, which are not really mounted to spec. I cross strapped them in the middle since they are portrait, also added 2 angled braces on the end with 3 that were not installed when the pictures were taken. I can tell you that pouring almost 5 yards of concrete with a powered concrete buggy took about 3 hours and the concrete company was not happy! Luckily they did not charge extra, which they could have. There were a lot of rocks and that caused the sonotubes not to be inline with each other, which is only cosmetic. Plan on using a laser level to determine the distance to the bottom of each hole so that when you cut the pipe the top is level. I pounded rocks at the bottom then put a small piece of cheap cedar fence to get a firm bottom. Should have put plastic bags around the sonotubes as a few collapsed before we could pour the cement and it wasn't fun digging them out at 40" with a fence post hole digger! Here are some pictures:[ATTACH=CONFIG]6249[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]6250[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]6251[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]6252[/ATTACH]
            Looks like that array on the right is getting some shading from those trees behind it. You may want to look into some pruning.

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            • JFinch57
              Solar Fanatic
              • Feb 2015
              • 159

              #21
              Originally posted by SunEagle
              Looks like that array on the right is getting some shading from those trees behind it. You may want to look into some pruning.
              That picture was taken within days of the panels going up. That maple tree has been pruned about 80-90%. Planning on doing some more before the leaves come out, but this summer I'll be renting a large beam type lift to paint the house and then I can get it completely trimmed without falling off of a ladder. There's an oak tree to the right of it which is causing early morning shade and I've convinced my wife that I can take it down.
              Jeff, BSEE, 22.3KW, 45-240W w/M190, 46-260W w/M250

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              • SunEagle
                Super Moderator
                • Oct 2012
                • 15166

                #22
                Originally posted by JFinch57
                That picture was taken within days of the panels going up. That maple tree has been pruned about 80-90%. Planning on doing some more before the leaves come out, but this summer I'll be renting a large beam type lift to paint the house and then I can get it completely trimmed without falling off of a ladder. There's an oak tree to the right of it which is causing early morning shade and I've convinced my wife that I can take it down.
                I understand the danger of using a ladder to trim tree branches. I was out this weekend with my 16 foot pole saw. It was nice to clean up my big Oak with both feet on the ground.

                As for taking down your oak tree, just make sure it falls away from those panels.

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