wired monitoring solution that connects to both meter and inverters?

[ura_soul]

greetings!

we have recently received an installation of a power-one aurora inverter and 4kW of panels here.
we also received a geo solo wireless monitor that shows the output of the panels and inverter. so far, all is well.
we also though, need a monitor that connects to the electricity meter, to know more precisely what is occuring - and ideally would prefer to connect all of this into a pc (best of all, i would prefer to only use a pc for monitoring - and not use any extra boxes of any kind.)

during installation, i requested that the monitor device that is installed, not be a wireless one - since i am conscious of the potentially hazardous health effects of wireless signals that are not harmonically attuned with the body (which the ones currently being used are not). as such, all electrical devices here are wired. however, my request was ignored and the geo solo was delivered anyway; so i wish to replace the wireless geo solo with a wired equivalent.

i have contacted some manufacturers of solar monitoring technology, asking for wired options - so far only one has said that they could offer a wired solution. however, the technology that this group (eco-eye) are suggesting is not their current range, does not connect to a pc and does not even unify the data from the meter with the solar inverter (they are offering 2 seperate boxes, one to monitor the solar system and one to monitor the meter).

so i am still looking for an approach which only uses wired connections (no wifi/radio) and which can connect to the meter, the solar system and a pc. does anyone have any links/suggestions in response to this request?

i have contacted power-one, the makers of the inverter we are using and they make a converter which can be used to support a comms cable from the inverter directly into a pc - which will allow monitoring of the solar system - however, they do not offer software which will integrate that solar data together with data from our electricity meter. plus, power-one are charging £100 for the RS to USB converter box! (which is available generically for less than £10!).

any tips welcome.

n.b. i appreciate that the 'accepted wisdom' of many will scoff at such claims about wireless technology, however, i refer you to, for example, this british MI5 specialist in microwave technology, confirming what i am saying:

https://www.infiniteeureka.com/videos/watch/3569/mi5-agent-dr-barrie-trower-dangerous-radiation-everywhere

https://www.infiniteeureka.com/videos/watch/3567/dr-barrie-trower-30-minutes-on-weaponised-microwaves-genocide-mind-control-cancer

[pleppik]

greetings!

so i am still looking for an approach which only uses wired connections (no wifi/radio) and which can connect to the meter, the solar system and a pc. does anyone have any links/suggestions in response to this request?

My installer has proposed eGauge, which allows multiple inputs and I believe it's wired. We haven't done the installation yet, so I haven't actually lived with this, but it's something to consider.

n.b. i appreciate that the 'accepted wisdom' of many will scoff at such claims about wireless technology, however, i refer you to, for example, this british MI5 specialist in microwave technology, confirming what i am saying:

Glad you recognize that your belief is outside the mainstream. With luck this will keep the thread focused on your question and not go off the rails into discussion of wireless technology.

[russ]

n.b. i appreciate that the 'accepted wisdom' of many will scoff at such claims about wireless technology, however, i refer you to, for example, this british MI5 specialist in microwave technology, confirming what i am saying:

https://www.infiniteeureka.com/videos/watch/3569/mi5-agent-dr-barrie-trower-dangerous-radiation-everywhere

https://www.infiniteeureka.com/video...control-cancer

There was also the loony twit at the UN - Brukland or some such name - that was into that stuff. You are so covered with or surrounded with wireless signals that one more or less will make zero difference.

[ura_soul]

thanks for the eguage link.. i will look at that.

as far as the claims of 'loony twit' are concerned - i would appreciate you not making unfounded claims, with no evidence to back up your claims.

my present location is one that is far enough from urban environments to minimise exposure to em manipulation of the space. regardless of that though, i do not intend to add to the pollution just out of laziness, conformity, denial and compromise. these are not the way of successful life.

[pleppik]

aaaaand here we go...

[russ]

as far as the claims of 'loony twit' are concerned - i would appreciate you not making unfounded claims, with no evidence to back up your claims.

Appreciate or not appreciate what you want - not my problem. I don't need evidence to say that we are in a constant bath of wireless signals - that is fact - unless of course one lives in a cave somewhere and never goes out into society.

Worrying about one signal more ore less is a bit? Well, what can one say?

[ura_soul]

as i stated already, i specifically choose to live away from airborne signals. i have experienced living in the center of one of the planet's busiest cities, surrounded by vast amounts of transmitters etc. and my health dropped to the lowest level ever.
i now live where there are almost no signals (measured using digital monitoring equipment) and my health is increasing. i need the peace, i feel the peace and i enjoy the peace.
i am not about to add to it, as i said. and i have no need to justify that.

[DanS26]

This business specializes in meters.....they may be able to help you.

http://www.hialeahmeter.com/

oops...I see you are in UK. These meters are US standards.

[ura_soul]

This business specializes in meters.....they may be able to help you.

http://www.hialeahmeter.com/

oops...I see you are in UK. These meters are US standards.

ok, thanks for the link. yes, the fittings need to be usable at this location - though any leads are helpful (no pun intended)

[gregvet]

Have you considered a TED 5000 system. Once set up and calibrated, it seems quite accurate. It can be set up as a wired(LAN network) or wireless system. Google: The Energy Detective

[ura_soul]

Have you considered a TED 5000 system. Once set up and calibrated, it seems quite accurate. It can be set up as a wired(LAN network) or wireless system. Google: The Energy Detective

thanks, i hadn't seen that system either. i like the format of it - it's pretty much exactly what i am looking for.
the only question i have is: how does the cable ring sensors (magnetic?!) know whether the electricity from the house to the utility grid is moving in or out of the house? e.g. can the cable ring sensors sense whether we are drawing from the grid, or sending out to the grid?

maybe i need to address this question directly to the manufacturers.
we have light emitters on the meters here, which may be a better option than the ring sensors that the TED system uses - ideally i would use the TED approach in conjunction with monitoring the light emitters rather than using the magnetic rings.

[gregvet]

thanks, i hadn't seen that system either. i like the format of it - it's pretty much exactly what i am looking for.
the only question i have is: how does the cable ring sensors (magnetic?!) know whether the electricity from the house to the utility grid is moving in or out of the house? e.g. can the cable ring sensors sense whether we are drawing from the grid, or sending out to the grid?

maybe i need to address this question directly to the manufacturers.
we have light emitters on the meters here, which may be a better option than the ring sensors that the TED system uses - ideally i would use the TED approach in conjunction with monitoring the light emitters rather than using the magnetic rings.

To use the TED system, you have to have access of the wires entering your service panel(s) and wires entering the service panel from the PV system.
The TED 5000 has the capability of 4 sensors for each system. You can assign 1 sensor as the generation (PV/wind, etc), and assign the other(s) as consumption. For instance, I have a 200Amp service box specifically for the house heating and another 200Amp service box for the rest of the house. I have a ground mounted PV system tied to the power pedestal. I put a sensor where the PV ties to the pedestal, a sensor in each of the service Boxes. I assign the PV as generation and the other as consumption. The system then can give me instantaneous readings of the amount I have generated/consumed for each sensor or a net generation/consumption. If/when I add another sensor, I'll assign it as generation from a roof mounted PV. The new Ted spider has 8 sensors!!

[russ]

Try looking at www.rfxcom.com

many solutions.

[DreInMD]

thanks, i hadn't seen that system either. i like the format of it - it's pretty much exactly what i am looking for.
the only question i have is: how does the cable ring sensors (magnetic?!) know whether the electricity from the house to the utility grid is moving in or out of the house? e.g. can the cable ring sensors sense whether we are drawing from the grid, or sending out to the grid?

maybe i need to address this question directly to the manufacturers.
we have light emitters on the meters here, which may be a better option than the ring sensors that the TED system uses - ideally i would use the TED approach in conjunction with monitoring the light emitters rather than using the magnetic rings.

I have a TED Pro home system. It has two MTUs on my primary panel and one on my solar subpanel. I also have 1 Spyder which allows you to monitor up to 8 individual circuits. The CT sensors are capable of determining the flow of power. During the evening right before the invertors shutdown I can see that they are actually pulling power from the grid. I can also see the 2 watt draw of the sunpower monitoring system at night. I can send a PM that will allow you to log on to see my system if you would like.

[gregvet]

Try looking at www.rfxcom.com

many solutions.

Unfortunately, the OP's requirement are not the wireless options-many of which these systems seem to use...