Charge Controller has cut off my LOAD for 2 days.

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  • stanly
    Member
    • Apr 2011
    • 48

    #1

    Charge Controller has cut off my LOAD for 2 days.

    The battery status indicator is showing RED from the charge controller.
    It has been 2 days, is this meant my battery is DEAD?!
  • Mike90250
    Moderator
    • May 2009
    • 16020

    #2
    Yep. get that battery on a charger quick, or you will loose it. After 24 hours, sulfation builds and hardens on the plates, reducing capacity.

    What is your source feeding the charge controller ? That's what needs checking. If the source is good, then the controller is bad.

    Most controllers need to see at least 10V at the battery, before their internals will start up.
    Powerfab top of pole PV mount (2) | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||
    || Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
    || VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A

    solar: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Solar
    gen: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Lister

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    • stanly
      Member
      • Apr 2011
      • 48

      #3
      I got a Solar Panel with 30wp.

      and my battery is 12AH by right it should able to charge atleast 40-50% per day even not a sunny day.

      From the charge controller indicator, the solar panel is under good status(power is in).

      Hm~~~ I need to monitoring 2 more days, if the battery is dead...

      How I know the battery is dead? It won't fill even the panel providing power?

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      • Mike90250
        Moderator
        • May 2009
        • 16020

        #4
        Solar PV need direct sun to work, cloudy days don't count, that's why I have a generator, my 3KW array puts out about 200-300w on a cloudy day

        A 30W panel, in the sun for 4 hours (10Am - 2pm) can produce
        30 x .8 = 24 watts x 4 hours = 96 watt hours @ 15V recharge voltage = 6.4Ah

        Because of losses in the controller and battery, it would take 3 days of full sun to recharge the battery.

        Some controllers, if the battery is too low, won't even run.

        I'm assuming your 30w panel, is a 18V design. If it's a 40V panel, you will get half the watts it was designed for.
        Powerfab top of pole PV mount (2) | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||
        || Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
        || VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A

        solar: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Solar
        gen: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Lister

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        • stanly
          Member
          • Apr 2011
          • 48

          #5
          "cloudy days don't count" ?!
          but charge controller is indicator show the power is coming in, ya.

          My PV is 12V only.

          From my charge controller user manual, it show there the LOAD will only be reconnect when battery reached 12.6V(which is around 80%) meanwhile, all my LOAD will be cut and stop.

          Hm~~ is this correct?

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          • Sunking
            Solar Fanatic
            • Feb 2010
            • 23301

            #6
            Originally posted by stanly
            "cloudy days don't count" ?!
            but charge controller is indicator show the power is coming in, ya.
            Yes but not enough to amount to anything
            MSEE, PE

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            • Mike90250
              Moderator
              • May 2009
              • 16020

              #7
              Originally posted by Mike90250
              cloudy days don't count, that's why I have a generator, my 3KW array puts out about 200-300w on a cloudy day
              If you have a 30 watt panel, I'd expect 2-3 watts off it, on a cloudy day.
              Powerfab top of pole PV mount (2) | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||
              || Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
              || VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A

              solar: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Solar
              gen: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Lister

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              • stanly
                Member
                • Apr 2011
                • 48

                #8
                my god.. that is too bad....

                can I get a battery charger for my battery? 0_0

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                • stanly
                  Member
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 48

                  #9
                  Based on the chart below,


                  and the spec from my charge controller manual

                  TECHNICAL INFORMATION
                  12Volt
                  Rated solar input 10A
                  Rated load 10A
                  25% Current overload 1 min.
                  Load disconnect 11.1V
                  Load re-connect 12.6V
                  Equalization voltage (10 minutes) 14.6V
                  Boost voltage (10 minutes) 14.4V
                  Float voltage 13.6V
                  Temp Comp. (mV/℃) -30mV
                  Temperature -35℃ to +55℃


                  If you noticed there
                  "Load disconnect 11.1V
                  Load re-connect 12.6V"

                  Is that meant 11.1V(10%) charge controller cut my LOAD and only will reconnect back my LOAD at 12.6V(100%)?

                  If that is true that meant, even the battery is charged 60% now charge controller will still wont reconnect?

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                  • Sunking
                    Solar Fanatic
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 23301

                    #10
                    One little problem with SOC voltages. They are useless for operating batteries while either being charged or discharged. The only time SOC can be valid is when the batteries have been disconnected and rested for several hours. That is not practical in a working system

                    You can take a fully discharged battery, apply a C/10 charge current at it will almost instantly read 13 volts, but I promise you it is still a dead battery.
                    MSEE, PE

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                    • stanly
                      Member
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 48

                      #11
                      In short meant my charge controller will only reconnect my LOAD when it reached 12.6V(100%) right?

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