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    Can I safely connect a 19 volt Appliance to a 12 volt battery Bank?

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    It's very easy to safely connect it .. Will it work properly? It's quite a spread. It would be nice if it works, but it doubt it will. All depends, A 19V brushless DC fan would likely work, A Laptop may charge the battery at greatly reduced rate or not. A TV - nope.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Brian53713 View Post
      Can I safely connect a 19 volt Appliance to a 12 volt battery Bank?
      100% safe.
      100% it will not work. It will not charge the battery pack. It will not run the processor.
      There are available 19V power supplies for computers, etc. that are designed to run off a nominal 12V car electrical system or in some cases also an airplane system.
      More efficient than running an inverter to get 120V AC and then converting down to 19V with a standard brick, but perhaps more expensive.
      SunnyBoy 3000 US, 18 BP Solar 175B panels.

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      • #4
        Is 19 volt a minimum for these household items? Can that run off of 24 volt Bank ?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Brian53713 View Post
          Is 19 volt a minimum for these household items? Can that run off of 24 volt Bank ?
          The 19V figure is based on the battery voltage used inside the appliances.
          You use a higher battery voltage than 12V because that is a better way, from an engineering viewpoint , to pack the power in than to try to use fewer higher capacity cells at a lower voltage.
          And since the primary use is from 120V AC power there is no balancing push to try to get them to operate from a 12V DC source.
          One of the problems is that a nominal 12V DC automotive system will actually range from as low as 10V to as high as 15 volts. That means, effectively, that the internal battery would have to be 10V or lower.
          Basically it is very unlikely to happen.


          Looking at the other side, a nominal 19V system will get a highly regulated input because there will be a converter of some sort from 100-140 AC to 19V or 10-16 V DC to 19V.
          There is absolutely no reason for the system designers to build a nominal 19V system in a way to operate safely on a DC input of 20-30V DC in addition.
          Also very unlikely to happen.

          You could, however, build a relatively inexpensive DC to DC converter or series regulator to drop the 24V to 19V before feeding it to the appliance.
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          • #6
            If you have a 12v batt ery and need to run a 19v device, you simply use a step up converter, If you have a 24v battery, you use a 24v to 19v step down converter.

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