New Poster. I realize this thread is old but though I'd add my. 2 cents. I live in an area with less than dependable municipal power and extended storm related outages...months.
The last post is also the most mis-informed. I have a Unique Signature LP 20" stove that relies on two 9Volt batteries for the piezo electric spark, including the oven, //Solar Fanatic//. The top burners light almost instantaneously while the oven not so much, but it is predictable. Turn knob to Stand-By, depress and initiate gas flow to pilot and spark. It usually takes two, ten second cycles to light the pilot, time for gas flow to reach the oven. After the pilot is lighted, turn the knob further to select temp. Option exists to return knob to Stand-By which will allow pilot to remain lighted with no oven burner. The pilot flame is tiny tiny, less than 1/10 the flame of a Bic lighter. Works well, no AC power required and the 9 volt batteries are long lasting. Well built with heavy cast iron grates above burners.
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I would expect those have no oven - that is the biggest explosion danger area.Leave a comment:
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A quick search for "off grid gas stove" returned quite a few stoves that have no power cord. They generally use a small battery pack (AA) for spark to light. They are designed for Amish, off gridders, and those that suffer lots of power outages.
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The glow bar comes on at full power (there are hundreds of models of varied shape and wattage) to light the gas, and then when it assumes the gas has lit, cuts back to half power, if it's resistance stays high, it means the flame keeps it hot, and then the gas valve stays on. So the glow bar is full power for about 1 minute for starting, and then half power while the thermostat calls for flame. YMMVLeave a comment:
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The glow bar comes on at full power (there are hundreds of models of varied shape and wattage) to light the gas, and then when it assumes the gas has lit, cuts back to half power, if it's resistance stays high, it means the flame keeps it hot, and then the gas valve stays on. So the glow bar is full power for about 1 minute for starting, and then half power while the thermostat calls for flame. YMMVLeave a comment:
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From what I have read, the glow bar turns on first when you start the oven. When it gets hot enough, a circuit connected to a thermocouple turns on the gas valve. I also know the glow bar is not on all the time because I have plugged the range in, in the garage, seen the electronics working, and have measured the current it is drawing. My meter barely registers anything (and I tested it with a few other loads first - it is quite accurate) so I know the range, without burners or oven turned on, uses virtually no power. Maybe a few watts.
The glow bar heats up a bimetal strip to mechanically open the gas valve. Very simple and robust, not requiring a millivolt valve the the way a thermocouple would.
And for safety the glow bar does stay on the whole time that the thermostat is calling for heat. That way there is no chance of the flame getting blown out or going out from an air pocket in the gas flow.
When the thermostat reaches the set temperature it just turns the glow bar off and the valve closes as it cools.
The valve is positioned so that the flame does not heat it, only the glow bar does. (Actually two glow bars, just to cost you more to replace. )
The same technique was used for the infrared broil element.Leave a comment:
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From what I have read, the glow bar turns on first when you start the oven. When it gets hot enough, a circuit connected to a thermocouple turns on the gas valve. I also know the glow bar is not on all the time because I have plugged the range in, in the garage, seen the electronics working, and have measured the current it is drawing. My meter barely registers anything (and I tested it with a few other loads first - it is quite accurate) so I know the range, without burners or oven turned on, uses virtually no power. Maybe a few watts.Leave a comment:
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I know that the glow bar is not on all the time, but sounds like all the time the oven is running. I have seen old messages (2005 to 2007) on various sites that say intermittent, and I have seen numbers from 300 watts to 500 watts (so about a kilowatt-hr for a two hour roast), but I would like to know if those numbers are still accurate with modern ranges. Does anyone have specs on the glow bar today?Leave a comment:
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Not ALL the time.
I know that the glow bar is not on all the time, but sounds like all the time the oven is running. I have seen old messages (2005 to 2007) on various sites that say intermittent, and I have seen numbers from 300 watts to 500 watts (so about a kilowatt-hr for a two hour roast), but I would like to know if those numbers are still accurate with modern ranges. Does anyone have specs on the glow bar today?Leave a comment:
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It is a power hungry electric heater that is on all the time.Leave a comment:
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Since the range is sitting in the garage, waiting for spring to get to the cottage, I have not actually used it. Just plugged it in and measured idle current. So I checked the manual and they do say glow bar in the section on power outages. No other mention of it. So how much power does it use when the oven is running?Leave a comment:
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Well brands are not all that different when it comes to a basic gas range which has both a cook top and oven. What you are shopping for is a range with Electronic Ignition which is actually an Oxymoron because all new gas ranges have electronic ignition. However Electronic Ignition does not mean both the cook top and oven use a SPARK Ignition. A large percentage use spark for the cook top and a Glow Bar for the oven.
The challenge is finding one with both oven and cook top use Spark Ignition. They use to be easy to find, but after some explosions and liability issues manufactures have shied away from them.Leave a comment:
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Is the oven/broiler ignition spark (do you hear zap zap zap) or Glow Bar (light like a 150W bulb when lighting, and 75w when running. Nearly all surface burners are spark.Leave a comment:
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We are just doing research for going solar (mostly off-grid with ability to switch to grid ) and wondering if anyone has experience with gas ranges they wish to share. I am considering Unique or Peerless brands (nothing with a glowbar) Any experience with either of these brands?
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for a while, Viking, used sparkers for the broiler, and oven, but now I hear they are going back to glowbars. You may confirm what's in the model you are looking at.Leave a comment:
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