The end user or the dealer/installer does the configuration on site, depending on who reads the manual and learns how to program the unit,
Off grid type setup that is on grid?
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THIS subject is similiar to what i had in my mind so i will try and ask the question here rather than opening new thread.......so simple question
wanted to design system that primarly used utility electricity ...if it gone down ...it switchs to solar system ....the load on the solar is trivial ...i wanted it for my friend who had
company of "2-way" super speed internet service and he had couple of "small watt" hubs and switchs that he wont them stay always working
he even suggest that i should design the system that solely depends on the solar but i suggest that he should "off load" his batteries from time to time
when there is electricity form the utilities that will help his batteries and extend their life
what to do ? automatic transfer switch? is it so fast to keep the switces"the load" on? where i can find "low ampergae" ones?any other solution?
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For computer gear, you want a dual conversion UPS box. It is always ON, it's inverter runs off the batteries, and the batteries are always being charged. No transfer switch, if the grid fails, you don't even miss 1 cycle, Brownout - you are already on batteries, nothing happens.
You select a unit that provides the power and duration your gear requires, and then you add some solar charging to it, if you want to spend the $$ to add solar.
Powerfab top of pole PV mount (2) | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||
|| Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
|| VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A
solar: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Solar
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YES but we do have great amount of black out ...the customer wants solar a system that charges his batteires....problem with ups
is that it is also charges the batteries ....you know now we have 2 circuits trying to charge one battery and BANG ...i need system that uses the ac utility
but when that fails it is safely changes to an always on inverter that is backed up by big battery and solar panel(i completely design my solar system only needs suggestion on the
switching method between the inverter and utility power "
one thought i have is to use chinese inverter that have build in ats when the utility is on the output will be from the utility ac when the utility is off the output will from the inverter
however at that point i must open up the inverter and disable the charger circuit that is bulid in this inverter this will allow my mppt controller to take care of batteries charging process
the gain of this process is that when the ac utility is on the output will be taken from ac utlity and the inverter will now be totally 100% shutdown
this is far more better than using normal inverter and ats externally .you know it is not logical to leave an invetrer on all the time ...however the disadvantage of this method (chinse
inverter witth build in ats) is that now i have to open up the new inevter and "modify" it by disabling the charger circuit ...some thing i really dont like doing
or may be you offer me 3TH solution?Comment
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YES but we do have great amount of black out ...the customer wants solar a system that charges his batteires....problem with ups
is that it is also charges the batteries ....you know now we have 2 circuits trying to charge one battery and BANG ...i need system that uses the ac utility
but when that fails it is safely changes to an always on inverter that is backed up by big battery and solar panel(i completely design my solar system only needs suggestion on the
switching method between the inverter and utility power "
one thought i have is to use chinese inverter that have build in ats when the utility is on the output will be from the utility ac when the utility is off the output will from the inverter
however at that point i must open up the inverter and disable the charger circuit that is bulid in this inverter this will allow my mppt controller to take care of batteries charging process
the gain of this process is that when the ac utility is on the output will be taken from ac utlity and the inverter will now be totally 100% shutdown
this is far more better than using normal inverter and ats externally .you know it is not logical to leave an invetrer on all the time ...however the disadvantage of this method (chinse
inverter witth build in ats) is that now i have to open up the new inevter and "modify" it by disabling the charger circuit ...some thing i really dont like doing
or may be you offer me 3TH solution?
That way you put in a standard transfer switch that will use the grid to power the UPS and then it would transfer to the solar/battery system when the grid goes down. Even if there is a "break before make" operation which will stop power going to the UPS for a short time internal, but the UPS battery will keep the load happy and running.Comment
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that way i have to buy ups + inverter....too much cost
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As for a instant transfer switch that is not a fake type made in China I would imagine the cost of that will be much more than a couple of small UPS systems sized for the couple of minutes you would wait for a standard transfer switch to work between choosing grid power or battery power.
I really can't help you if you don't understand you will be paying for this equipment one way or the other but neither will be low cost.Comment
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