Sunsaver MPPT and 350 W solar panels with monitoring

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  • dj_trefle
    Junior Member
    • Aug 2010
    • 5

    #1

    Sunsaver MPPT and 350 W solar panels with monitoring

    Hello,

    After spending lots of time trying to understand each part of a solar installation I would like to be sure that I chose the right components.

    I have two 175 Watt solar panels (Powerglaz SMT 48) which have a short-circuit current of 8A and an open-circuit voltage of 29.4V. I need to supply a monitor (consumption: 30W) 8 hours a day and 5 days a week. The purpose of this screen is to display information concerning the energy coming from the solar panels.

    To measure this energy I found the Sunsaver MPPT regulator which seems to be a go solution. Because of the solar panels power which is more than 200W I need a 24V battery (two 12V 55Ah AGM deep cycle batteries in serie). The two solar panels would be connected in serie.

    Between the sunsaver regulator and the display I will use a 24V DC/220V AC converter.

    1) Do you think that all these components can work together ?
    2) Will the batteries be protected of deep discharge ? can I set up the batteries voltage to disconnect load ?

    2) Concerning Sunsaver monitoring, I know that we can follow the energy produced to charge the battery and supply the load but is it possible to know the energy available from the solar panels (even if I do not use all this energy during the summer for instance) ?

    Thank you for your help !
    Matthieu
  • Mike90250
    Moderator
    • May 2009
    • 16020

    #2
    Check the specs, but i think the sunsaver has a computer output, you may need a $30 dongle from Morningstar to adapt it to your compters serial port.

    From the draw of your monitor, you may end up consuming all the power you produce. I don't know if the inverter you've chosen has a low power mode, or if you will need to turn it off when you are not using the monitor, to save battery power.

    Never connect the inverter to the LOAD terminals of the controller, it's ornly for a small lightbulb.
    Powerfab top of pole PV mount (2) | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||
    || Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
    || VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A

    solar: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Solar
    gen: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Lister

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    • crxvfr
      Solar Fanatic
      • Jun 2010
      • 173

      #3
      Originally posted by Mike90250
      Never connect the inverter to the LOAD terminals of the controller, it's ornly for a small lightbulb.
      Copy. paste, save.

      Yet another incidental tip that could save me (big) from screwing things up.

      That is exactly what I was going to do.

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      • Mike90250
        Moderator
        • May 2009
        • 16020

        #4
        Originally posted by crxvfr
        Copy. paste, save.

        Yet another incidental tip that could save me (big) from screwing things up.

        That is exactly what I was going to do.
        It's actually in the manual too! if anyone still reads off of paper.
        Powerfab top of pole PV mount (2) | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||
        || Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
        || VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A

        solar: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Solar
        gen: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Lister

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        • crxvfr
          Solar Fanatic
          • Jun 2010
          • 173

          #5
          Originally posted by Mike90250
          It's actually in the manual too! if anyone still reads off of paper.
          ha. I still don't want or have a cellphone. ...but I love google.

          And, ..I have a sunsaver. It was one of the first things I bought, then found out it was too small. I still have a use for it but um, excuse me sir. My manual says The SS-MPPT load output connection will provide battery voltage to systems loads such as lights, pumps, motors, and electronic devices with a 15 amp limit.

          Your point about referring to the paper manual not missed.

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          • dj_trefle
            Junior Member
            • Aug 2010
            • 5

            #6
            Thanks for your help,
            From the draw of your monitor, you may end up consuming all the power you produce
            Does it mean that I will not be able to know the energy available ? I know that I will use all the energy produce but no all the energy available (except maybe during the winter...), how can I do ?

            Concerning the sunsaver MPPT, it is written in its manual :
            The total current draw of all system loads
            connected to the SS-MPPT LOAD terminals cannot
            exceed the 15A load current rating
            I think it is enough for the inverter ?

            Matthieu

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            • Mike90250
              Moderator
              • May 2009
              • 16020

              #7
              15A into an inverter @ 12V, gives you 180w output (not counting losses.) It can be very easy to exceed the 15A limit, and then something bad happens inside the controller.
              Powerfab top of pole PV mount (2) | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||
              || Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
              || VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A

              solar: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Solar
              gen: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Lister

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              • dj_trefle
                Junior Member
                • Aug 2010
                • 5

                #8
                OK thank you,

                and concerning the measure of the available energy from the solar panel ?

                Matthieu

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