Help need for Xantrex XW6048 or XW6848 Inverter/Charger.

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  • paulcheung
    Solar Fanatic
    • Jul 2013
    • 965

    #1

    Help need for Xantrex XW6048 or XW6848 Inverter/Charger.

    Hi guys,

    I understand you can use a laptop or desktop computer to control the XW series inverter. My question is how you do it. Do you connect the computer to the inverter through a Ethernet cable or a wireless adaptor? do you still need the optional control panel that cost about $300 USD? or you just download a program to your computer and connect to the inverter.

    Thank you in advance.
  • Sunking
    Solar Fanatic
    • Feb 2010
    • 23301

    #2
    Paul I am not familiar with those two products, but generally it is a communication software you load onto a puter, and then use either RS-232 (antiquated) or a Ethernet cable to connect between puter and device.
    MSEE, PE

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    • SunEagle
      Super Moderator
      • Oct 2012
      • 15168

      #3
      Originally posted by paulcheung
      Hi guys,

      I understand you can use a laptop or desktop computer to control the XW series inverter. My question is how you do it. Do you connect the computer to the inverter through a Ethernet cable or a wireless adaptor? do you still need the optional control panel that cost about $300 USD? or you just download a program to your computer and connect to the inverter.

      Thank you in advance.
      It looks like you need a device called the Conext ComBox which allows you to communicate with the inverter via a computer. The ComBox has an Ehthernet, 485 Modbus or dry contact I/O port.

      I didn't see anything about which software to use but I would guess it would be similar to a wireless router or Web interface box using IP addresses.

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      • paulcheung
        Solar Fanatic
        • Jul 2013
        • 965

        #4
        I went to the dealer this morning, the girl doesn't know much about it. they have the combox for $420 US and the remote control panel for $300 US and the Inverter on sale for $3000 US.

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        • Sunking
          Solar Fanatic
          • Feb 2010
          • 23301

          #5
          Originally posted by paulcheung
          I went to the dealer this morning, the girl doesn't know much about it. they have the combox for $420 US and the remote control panel for $300 US and the Inverter on sale for $3000 US.
          $3720 USD if my math is right works out to about $390,600 JMD or about:

          11 years salary for a skilled trade worker
          4 years for an Engineer
          3 years for an Advertisement Executive.
          1 year for tipped Bartender at a Inclusive Resort
          1 month selling Ganja to tourist.

          I think Electricity cost according to JPS is down from 38-cent per Kwh USD ($39.9 JMD) to 33-cents per Kwh USD ($34.65 JMD). That is lower than some US states. Hard to justify using solar battery when it cost over $1 USD/Kwh or $105 JMD per Kwh in battery cost. How do you do that Paul?
          MSEE, PE

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          • paulcheung
            Solar Fanatic
            • Jul 2013
            • 965

            #6
            I size the battery bank extreme small, do a lot load shifting to day time, the load on battery bank is about 10kwh per day. 750 AH @48 volts is about 36KWH. Less than one third of the capacity use daily hope the battery bank will last more than 5 years. JPS will cost me $275,000 per year in electricity, the two bank of battery $38500x16 will cost me $616,000 will be 2.24 years to payback.
            20 to 24KWH per day.
            33 cents per kwh @365=$2650 per year
            System cost include the 750ah battery is $22,000 USD.

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            • Mike90250
              Moderator
              • May 2009
              • 16020

              #7
              XW6048 owner here.

              You NEED either the SCP (system control panel) which is a stand-alone menu driven product, or the Combox which is a much more powerful device, but needs to connect to a web browser that can interact with it, and unlock it's full features, which are more powerful than the SCP. I have BOTH SCP and Combox, and recommend the combox strongly.
              Powerfab top of pole PV mount (2) | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||
              || Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
              || VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A

              solar: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Solar
              gen: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Lister

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              • paulcheung
                Solar Fanatic
                • Jul 2013
                • 965

                #8
                Thank you Mike, so once have the combox you won't need the remote panel? any way I was wonder if I can just get the inverter and use the computer to do the settings. So $3000 +$400, total $3400.

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                • Mike90250
                  Moderator
                  • May 2009
                  • 16020

                  #9
                  Originally posted by paulcheung
                  Thank you Mike, so once have the combox you won't need the remote panel? any way I was wonder if I can just get the inverter and use the computer to do the settings. So $3000 +$400, total $3400.
                  NO, the inverter has no capability to talk to a computer. you HAVE to have one of the little boxes. The combox does work as a web interface to a browser, or an android app. I plug into a wireless router and access the combox via the wireless from my office. (too lazy to walk over 800' to check by hand)
                  Powerfab top of pole PV mount (2) | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||
                  || Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
                  || VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A

                  solar: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Solar
                  gen: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Lister

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                  • paulcheung
                    Solar Fanatic
                    • Jul 2013
                    • 965

                    #10
                    Mike, my house already has a wireless network which has a router connect all the computers I have. Can I just get a wireless adapter to connect to the combox and connect to the net work?
                    Thank you.

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                    • Mike90250
                      Moderator
                      • May 2009
                      • 16020

                      #11
                      Originally posted by paulcheung
                      Mike, my house already has a wireless network which has a router connect all the computers I have. Can I just get a wireless adapter to connect to the combox and connect to the net work? Thank you.
                      The wireless has to be smart enough to be able to assign a DHCP (or is it DCHP ?) address to the combox. I know a $30 4port wifi router works great.
                      Powerfab top of pole PV mount (2) | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||
                      || Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
                      || VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A

                      solar: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Solar
                      gen: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Lister

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                      • inetdog
                        Super Moderator
                        • May 2012
                        • 9909

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Mike90250
                        The wireless has to be smart enough to be able to assign a DHCP (or is it DCHP ?) address to the combox. I know a $30 4port wifi router works great.
                        DHCP = Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol.
                        SunnyBoy 3000 US, 18 BP Solar 175B panels.

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