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  • wedgeantilles
    Junior Member
    • Jul 2012
    • 25

    #31
    Aerogenerator questions

    Originally posted by ChrisOlson
    I think your turbine will be a lot of fun for you. But I don't know how much energy it will produce for an off-grid system. It is designed to be used on a yacht where when the boat is under way the wind will trickle charge the house batteries in the yacht. We have a 58 foot yacht moored at a marina on Lake Superior and it used to have one of those little turbines on it (except a different brand) but we took it off because it never worked very good. We put 1.5 kW of solar panels on our yacht instead, on top of the pilot house.

    The main thing is that a small turbine that size is not a real high energy producer, so I would not expect a lot from it.
    --
    Chris
    Dear Chris,

    The olg guy is spinning connected to the 24 Vdc batteries.

    In a few days will know if he is able to charge the batteries.

    We will have fun, and we will learn a lot from him, for sure.

    Let's wait a few days and see if we can use some watts from him.

    The rest of the off grid power is coming from solar panels and a 24 Vdc battery bank, all installed and designed reading posts from this forum, plus the little things I know by myself. Happy with it. And my friend is not a heavy consumer, this is also important.

    All the best,

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    • ChrisOlson
      Solar Fanatic
      • Sep 2013
      • 630

      #32
      Originally posted by inetdog
      And if a boat it tacking crosswind, the wind over the sail (and to some extent over the bow) can be much larger than the wind speed.
      When you are sailing on a reach, sailboats can pretty easily run 2x the wind speed. It's the same principle as to why the tips of wind turbine blades can run 6-10x wind speed. The sail has the shape of a wing - it is an airfoil and it creates lift, and you have to trim the sail so it runs at the right angle of attack, just like an aircraft wing. So the wind coming off the main sail can be up to 2x relative wind speed over the bow.

      That's why people that have wind turbines mounted on sailboats mount them so the wind coming off the main sail can drive the turbine. And the reason in the first place, why those little turbines work so good on a sailboat and not so good on a motor yacht. Like our boat will do about 14 knots at best fuel economy cruise with two 600hp Cat diesels burning 15 gph each. We've been on a cruise and had sailboats, some of them bigger than our boat, pass us up on nice day with a 10-12kt crosswind, not burning a single drop of diesel fuel. I've seen some sailboats with fast hulls flat out haul and there are few motor yachts built that could keep up.
      --
      Chris
      off-grid in Northern Wisconsin for 14 years

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      • Naptown
        Solar Fanatic
        • Feb 2011
        • 6880

        #33
        Did anyone see the America's cup races.
        They were hitting speeds of close to 50 mph in winds of 20
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        • ChrisOlson
          Solar Fanatic
          • Sep 2013
          • 630

          #34
          Originally posted by Naptown
          Did anyone see the America's cup races.
          They were hitting speeds of close to 50 mph in winds of 20
          You bet. Sailing is an art, not a science. You can study books until your eyeballs bug out and you still won't be a sailor. The only thing that makes a real sailor is years of experience.
          --
          Chris
          off-grid in Northern Wisconsin for 14 years

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          • Naptown
            Solar Fanatic
            • Feb 2011
            • 6880

            #35
            Methinks there was quite a bit of science went into those boats.
            Controlling them is where experience counts but those boats were of such radical design I'm sure the learning curve was steep even with years of experience
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            • russ
              Solar Fanatic
              • Jul 2009
              • 10360

              #36
              Originally posted by Naptown
              Did anyone see the America's cup races.
              They were hitting speeds of close to 50 mph in winds of 20
              Just the highlights but they have been great - love it when the cats are out of the water totally - only the foils submerged.
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              • ChrisOlson
                Solar Fanatic
                • Sep 2013
                • 630

                #37
                Originally posted by Naptown
                Methinks there was quite a bit of science went into those boats.
                Controlling them is where experience counts but those boats were of such radical design I'm sure the learning curve was steep even with years of experience
                Almost assuredly. Those low drag speed hulls are about like going from a VW Bug to an open-wheel Formula One car in the automotive world. Even though the principles of sailing it are the same, you don't want a novice crew on it. The Oracle AC45 has a five person crew, and there is no room on the crew for even a single novice



                --
                Chris
                off-grid in Northern Wisconsin for 14 years

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