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  • Ampster
    Solar Fanatic
    • Jun 2017
    • 3649

    #31
    Yes CC is constant current = Bulk
    CV is constant voltage = Absorb.
    In constant voltage
    phase you should see the Amps begin to taper off. Some charge controllers have a timed setting for that phase or a minimum Amps where the charging stops.
    9 kW solar, 42kWh LFP storage. EV owner since 2012

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    • Hosinfefer
      Junior Member
      • Aug 2019
      • 20

      #32
      Originally posted by Ampster
      Yes CC is constant current = Bulk
      CV is constant voltage = Absorb.
      In constant voltage
      phase you should see the Amps begin to taper off. Some charge controllers have a timed setting for that phase or a minimum Amps where the charging stops.
      Ok so based on your previous post Ampster a safe "max" charge of 13.8C (3.45V\Cell). So set the bulk up to like 13.5? then slow Absorb it up to 13.8?

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      • Hosinfefer
        Junior Member
        • Aug 2019
        • 20

        #33
        or maybe just safe to follow the settings from this site on how to set the specs for LFP battery.
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        • Ampster
          Solar Fanatic
          • Jun 2017
          • 3649

          #34
          Originally posted by Hosinfefer

          Ok so based on your previous post Ampster a safe "max" charge of 13.8C (3.45V\Cell). So set the bulk up to like 13.5? then slow Absorb it up to 13.8?
          I would go to 13.8 with Bulk. When it hits that voltage it will switch to constant voltage (Absorb) and then you set the timing or the minimum Amps to end the constant voltage phase. That way you get max current until your set point. Some of that may depend on when your BMS starts balancing.

          That link uses more aggressive voltage that I would but it is a judgment call and both are conservative numbers.
          Last edited by Ampster; 08-22-2019, 10:27 PM.
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          • Mike90250
            Moderator
            • May 2009
            • 16020

            #35
            Most controllers, the Bulk and Absorb voltages are the same, and when the voltage is reached, the timer for Absorb starts counting .

            After the timer finishes, controllers transition to the FLOAT mode which is often a slightly lower voltage..
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            • Ampster
              Solar Fanatic
              • Jun 2017
              • 3649

              #36
              Originally posted by Mike90250
              Most controllers, the Bulk and Absorb voltages are the same, and when the voltage is reached, the timer for Absorb starts counting .

              After the timer finishes, controllers transition to the FLOAT mode which is often a slightly lower voltage..
              Thanks for confirming that. In this case he is going to disable Float as recommended for LFP.
              9 kW solar, 42kWh LFP storage. EV owner since 2012

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              • Mike90250
                Moderator
                • May 2009
                • 16020

                #37
                I've got no idea how he's going to configure/program his controller. All we can do is advise. FLOAT can't really be disabled, but can be set to a low enough voltage the cells won't continue charging, and if loads come online, the controller will power 90% of the load. But that requires reading, comprehending and implementing the recommended settings from the Mfg, who is in charge of the warranty.
                Powerfab top of pole PV mount (2) | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||
                || Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
                || VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A

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                • Hosinfefer
                  Junior Member
                  • Aug 2019
                  • 20

                  #38
                  well I will contact Ep and see what they say about the controller and the charge settings. Didn't think it would be this hard to find correct charging parameters, but you live and learn I guess.

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                  • Hosinfefer
                    Junior Member
                    • Aug 2019
                    • 20

                    #39
                    so EP does nto support LIFEPO4 with that BN series controller...they suggest I buy a new one. So i went with a victron controller that supports LIFEPO4 battery native.

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