Designing of off grid solar system

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  • Mian Jee
    Junior Member
    • May 2012
    • 7

    #31
    Originally posted by syedbukhari
    what will you suggest if i run this pump without batteries.
    About inverter size and array setting
    220 volts are used in Pakistan
    frequency 50 hertz
    @syedbukhari, How can i contact you?, shah jee.

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    • russ
      Solar Fanatic
      • Jul 2009
      • 10360

      #32
      Originally posted by Mian Jee
      @syedbukhari, How can i contact you?, shah jee.
      Have the discourse on the site for all or not at all.
      [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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      • syedbukhari
        Junior Member
        • Jun 2012
        • 10

        #33
        Originally posted by wedgeantilles

        For the 5 HP pump, you can use amorphous panels, just connect series of them to have the grid voltage ( if it is 230 V 50 Hz, I don't know) you will need 230*SQRT(2)=330 Volts aprox. Then connect others series in parallel to reach the amps needed.

        Then connect the output from the solar pannels to the DC input of the VFD and you have it, connect the electrical motor in a star configuration if it is rated to 230 V star. The VFD will do the rest.

        Wedge.
        I try this and it works vey well but the only problem is that we have to adjust the frequency manually. Vfd do not control the frequency as the radiations goes up and down.

        Kindly also guide is it possible that VFD itself control the speed of the motor as the radiation varies.

        Many thanks for your battery less solution suggestion.

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        • Mike90250
          Moderator
          • May 2009
          • 16020

          #34
          Originally posted by wedgeantilles
          Dear sir,
          For the 5 HP pump, you can use amorphous panels, just connect series of them to have the grid voltage ( if it is 230 V 50 Hz, I don't know) you will need 230*SQRT(2)=330 Volts aprox. Then connect others series in parallel to reach the amps needed.....
          @ wedgeantilles If you have not run this sort of high power system, please refrain from advising neophytes un-tested theory.

          There is no practical way to run a 5 hp 3 ph pump from a small or moderate solar system. You are better off getting a generator to run it. It WILL NEVER run directly off solar panels, without a VERY expensive system, and then, only in full, bright sunlight for a couple hours only.
          engineering (best case) 750watts = 1 hp. That's 3750 watts, in a perfect, loss free system, and much more in real life.
          Powerfab top of pole PV mount (2) | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||
          || Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
          || VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A

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          • Sunking
            Solar Fanatic
            • Feb 2010
            • 23301

            #35
            Originally posted by Mike90250
            @ wedgeantilles If you have not run this sort of high power system, please refrain from advising neophytes un-tested theory.

            There is no practical way to run a 5 hp 3 ph pump from a small or moderate solar system. You are better off getting a generator to run it. It WILL NEVER run directly off solar panels, without a VERY expensive system, and then, only in full, bright sunlight for a couple hours only.
            engineering (best case) 750watts = 1 hp. That's 3750 watts, in a perfect, loss free system, and much more in real life.
            I think we tarred and feathered this moron imposter a couple of years back and he has not been back since. Learned his lesson to never come here again.
            MSEE, PE

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            • inetdog
              Super Moderator
              • May 2012
              • 9909

              #36
              Originally posted by Sunking
              I think we tarred and feathered this moron imposter a couple of years back and he has not been back since. Learned his lesson to never come here again.
              Dereck, your use of "moron" in this case is both insensitive and a slander on morons.
              SunnyBoy 3000 US, 18 BP Solar 175B panels.

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              • Sunking
                Solar Fanatic
                • Feb 2010
                • 23301

                #37
                Originally posted by inetdog
                Dereck, your use of "moron" in this case is both insensitive and a slander on morons.
                Tell you what I will give you a dime so you can call someone who gives a chit.
                MSEE, PE

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                • russ
                  Solar Fanatic
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 10360

                  #38
                  Originally posted by inetdog
                  Dereck, your use of "moron" in this case is both insensitive and a slander on morons.
                  Goof one! In Argentina the term is jarco - meaning dumber than dumb - not that anyone cares
                  [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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