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  • hammick
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    Originally posted by paulcheung View Post
    To OP,
    If I were you, I just go and buy 2 new 6volt 225AH golf cart battery and parallel them, and put them with other 7 to help to get few more years if lucky enough.
    Cheers.
    Thanks. After countless hours of equalizing these batteries and breathing way too much battery acid I got them where they needed to be and sold them. I'm going LifePO4 and will never look back (hopefully).

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  • paulcheung
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    To OP,
    If I were you, I just go and buy 2 new 6volt 225AH golf cart battery and parallel them, and put them with other 7 to help to get few more years if lucky enough.
    Cheers.

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  • Mike90250
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    because of spammers, PM's were disabled several years ago, sorry

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  • hammick
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    Originally posted by Sunking View Post

    I can't bring the dead back. I understand your situation. Good luck finding a used one. Tip, it does not have to be a Trojan L16 for temporary band-aids. You just need help crossing the finish line.

    Figure out how to get in touch with me. I got an idea for you.
    Well for the life I me I cannot figure out how to send PM on this site but my email is

    Thanks.

    Email removed for posters security
    Last edited by SunEagle; 09-22-2020, 10:05 PM.

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  • Sunking
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    Originally posted by hammick View Post
    Now tell me how to safely bring back a dead cell in a Trojan L16
    I can't bring the dead back. I understand your situation. Good luck finding a used one. Tip, it does not have to be a Trojan L16 for temporary band-aids. You just need help crossing the finish line.

    Figure out how to get in touch with me. I got an idea for you.
    Last edited by Sunking; 09-21-2020, 10:10 PM.

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  • littleharbor
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    Originally posted by hammick View Post

    Thanks for the info Littleharbor. Was that at a battery place or a recycling center? The highest I've found so far is .23 per lb. and that's only if I scrap more than 3.
    A battery recycling yard.

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  • hammick
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    Originally posted by Sunking View Post
    Hammick when you go off grid, money is no object. That is why you went off grid in the first place was to loose money. Start throwing more money at it.You will do that for as long as you are of-grid. Enjoy spending all that money. You do not need it. Ask Bernie and Joe, they will agree.
    Sunking don't be an off grid hater just because you love the suburbs. Some people go off grid to live at the base of the mountains with a good amount of land, wildlife everywhere, and great three season climate. We are those some people.

    They will never bring power up here. I made sure of that before I put the solar in. If they did I would sell and buy somewhere else. Power brings people which brings more cars, ATVs, dirt bikes, dust, etc.

    I don't know Bernie or Joe but tell them hello.

    Now tell me how to safely bring back a dead cell in a Trojan L16 so I can buy a few more years before I go LifeP04. The other 7 batteries are recovering nicely. I already have 4 of them at proper specific gravities.

    I dumped the acid out of the dead cell into a clean bucket. Rinsed the cell thoroughly with a hose. Made sure all the water was out and put the acid back in using a strainer funnel. No go. It's still dead. Pretty sure the plates go exposed for an amount of time. The other two cells are at full specific gravity.

    I'm not comfortable trying the reverse polarity trick or sticking a copper wire in the dead cell to get it boiling with a charger. I like my eyesight. I might try the epsom salt trick that is all over Youtube. Maybe a NOCO Genius 10a charger with desulphate mode since I could use another charger the toys.

    The local Trojan supplier has their eye out for a used 435 ah L16. They agree that putting a new one in with three year old abused batteries is a bad idea.

    Sunking it's time you start having a positive attitude. All that negativity is going to put you in an early grave

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  • Sunking
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    Hammick when you go off grid, money is no object. That is why you went off grid in the first place was to loose money. Start throwing more money at it.You will do that for as long as you are of-grid. Enjoy spending all that money. You do not need it. Ask Bernie and Joe, they will agree.
    Last edited by Sunking; 09-17-2020, 01:34 PM.

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  • hammick
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    Originally posted by littleharbor View Post
    Last time I scrapped my batteries they were paying 38 cents a pound. I got $38.00 a battery x 8. Pleasantly surprised.
    Thanks for the info Littleharbor. Was that at a battery place or a recycling center? The highest I've found so far is .23 per lb. and that's only if I scrap more than 3.

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  • littleharbor
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    Last time I scrapped my batteries they were paying 38 cents a pound. I got $38.00 a battery x 8. Pleasantly surprised.

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  • hammick
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    Originally posted by Sunking View Post

    Save yourself a lot of heartache, stop the wallet from bleeding any more, take your loses, learn your lesson, and move on. The batteries were abused causing one too fail already. and the other 7 are close behind.You would just be throwing more money away buying either a new or used cell. Afraid the only happy party in the transaction was the seller. If he/she had traded the cores for new ones would have only received $20 credit for each cell or $160. He/she came out way ahead and did not have to move or ship them. Sounds like you rolled the dice and came up with Snake Eyes.
    The scrap value of these batteries is $350. I'm not that concerned if I have to scrap them. I have pallet forks for my tractor and the scrap place will unload them from my truck. Bought them from a good friend/neighbor so I would have hauled them into town for free had she asked. Plus they bought the $8,000 Eclipse LifeP04 battery and I will get to see if it performs as well as they claim. I'm trying to buy a couple years before I go LifeP04.

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  • Sunking
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    Originally posted by hammick View Post
    Got the batteries today. 7 out of 8 were between 6.14 and 6.22 volts. One was in the mid 4 volt range and isn't taking a charge. I think it has one bad cell. I'm going to see what kind of specific gravities I can get out the other 7 before I decide if I will scrap them all or replace the one bad one. Ideally I'd like to find a used 435ah L16 Trojan. I think a new one would just cause problems with the other batteries.
    Save yourself a lot of heartache, stop the wallet from bleeding any more, take your loses, learn your lesson, and move on. The batteries were abused causing one too fail already. and the other 7 are close behind.You would just be throwing more money away buying either a new or used cell. Afraid the only happy party in the transaction was the seller. If he/she had traded the cores for new ones would have only received $20 credit for each cell or $160. He/she came out way ahead and did not have to move or ship them. Sounds like you rolled the dice and came up with Snake Eyes.

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  • hammick
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    Got the batteries today. 7 out of 8 were between 6.14 and 6.22 volts. One was in the mid 4 volt range and isn't taking a charge. I think it has one bad cell. I'm going to see what kind of specific gravities I can get out the other 7 before I decide if I will scrap them all or replace the one bad one. Ideally I'd like to find a used 435ah L16 Trojan. I think a new one would just cause problems with the other batteries.

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  • hammick
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    Originally posted by Mike90250 View Post
    use a voltmeter and charge both banks to the same voltage, and at that moment, connect them together. No sparks (unless you make a mistake)

    Parallel - they will last as long as the weakest battery. You have 3 year old, well used batteries. How long they last, depends on how deep the cycles were and how you treat them in the future. Look to the warranty of the batteries, if they were 3 year warranty, getting 4 or 5 would be great. Getting 5 more years from them now, is iffy in my opinion.
    Thanks Mike. So it sounds like they won't make my 325ah bank which is five years old but shallow cycles (except for a month last winter when panels were covered with snow) deteriorate any quicker? I'm picking up these 435ah batteries today and charging them to see their condition. Turns out a faulty fridge was the issue with their system.

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  • Mike90250
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    use a voltmeter and charge both banks to the same voltage, and at that moment, connect them together. No sparks (unless you make a mistake)

    Parallel - they will last as long as the weakest battery. You have 3 year old, well used batteries. How long they last, depends on how deep the cycles were and how you treat them in the future. Look to the warranty of the batteries, if they were 3 year warranty, getting 4 or 5 would be great. Getting 5 more years from them now, is iffy in my opinion.

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