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  • stokkers
    Junior Member
    • Apr 2012
    • 2

    #1

    24V solar panel charger

    Hi all

    A newbie here looking for advice.

    I have a 24V driven mobility scooter, which I thought I would trickle charge using a 24V solar panel. I checked out the net and purchased on.

    On a lable on the back of the panel, it states that the output voltage is 35V. I contacted the supplier who stated that this is normal.

    So, I am wondering if this IS normal and would it be safe to charge the battery? The battery is 2x 12V. Would i need a voltage regulater or dropper?

    Would be interested in your answers or help.

    Many thanks.

    Ken
  • Naptown
    Solar Fanatic
    • Feb 2011
    • 6880

    #2
    Originally posted by stokkers
    Hi all

    A newbie here looking for advice.

    I have a 24V driven mobility scooter, which I thought I would trickle charge using a 24V solar panel. I checked out the net and purchased on.

    On a lable on the back of the panel, it states that the output voltage is 35V. I contacted the supplier who stated that this is normal.

    So, I am wondering if this IS normal and would it be safe to charge the battery? The battery is 2x 12V. Would i need a voltage regulater or dropper?

    Would be interested in your answers or help.

    Many thanks.

    Ken
    That would be normal voltage for a 24V battery. Voltage will drop as soon as it is connected to the battery.
    Of greater concern is the size in watts of the panel and the amp hour ratings on the batteries. A small say 10 or 20W panel will probably not over charge them but a larger one could. In this instance you would need to add a charge controller to prevent overcharging the batteries.
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    • stokkers
      Junior Member
      • Apr 2012
      • 2

      #3
      Originally posted by Naptown
      That would be normal voltage for a 24V battery. Voltage will drop as soon as it is connected to the battery.
      Of greater concern is the size in watts of the panel and the amp hour ratings on the batteries. A small say 10 or 20W panel will probably not over charge them but a larger one could. In this instance you would need to add a charge controller to prevent overcharging the batteries.
      Thanks Naptown

      Just checked on the details and from what you say, It should be OK to use as the power is only 5 watts with max current of 0.13 A.

      Will just have to try it out and stand back!

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      • Naptown
        Solar Fanatic
        • Feb 2011
        • 6880

        #4
        Before you connect anything make sure in the panel documents there is a blocking diode to prevent the battery from discharging into the panel when it is connected and there is not enough light to generate any power.
        NABCEP certified Technical Sales Professional

        [URL="http://www.solarpaneltalk.com/showthread.php?5334-Solar-Off-Grid-Battery-Design"]http://www.solarpaneltalk.com/showth...Battery-Design[/URL]

        [URL]http://www.calculator.net/voltage-drop-calculator.html[/URL] (Voltage drop Calculator among others)

        [URL="http://www.gaisma.com"]www.gaisma.com[/URL]

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        • Sunking
          Solar Fanatic
          • Feb 2010
          • 23301

          #5
          Originally posted by stokkers
          Just checked on the details and from what you say, It should be OK to use as the power is only 5 watts with max current of 0.13 A.
          Complete waste of time unless you only use the scooter to drive 100 feet to check your mail box once a week..

          other tan that it will charge your cell phone.. .
          MSEE, PE

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          • Naptown
            Solar Fanatic
            • Feb 2011
            • 6880

            #6
            Originally posted by Sunking
            Complete waste of time unless you only use the scooter to drive 100 feet to check your mail box once a week..

            other tan that it will charge your cell phone.. .
            It might keep up with the self discharge but not much more.
            NABCEP certified Technical Sales Professional

            [URL="http://www.solarpaneltalk.com/showthread.php?5334-Solar-Off-Grid-Battery-Design"]http://www.solarpaneltalk.com/showth...Battery-Design[/URL]

            [URL]http://www.calculator.net/voltage-drop-calculator.html[/URL] (Voltage drop Calculator among others)

            [URL="http://www.gaisma.com"]www.gaisma.com[/URL]

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            • Mike90250
              Moderator
              • May 2009
              • 16020

              #7
              Yet another person scammed out of $30 for a totally unsuitable PV panel. 5 minutes with the plug in charger, will accomplish what a 5 w solar panel is capable of in a whole day.

              I'd fight back, the worst that happens is you pay for return postage, and get your money back.
              Powerfab top of pole PV mount (2) | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||
              || Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
              || VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A

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              • Wy_White_Wolf
                Solar Fanatic
                • Oct 2011
                • 1179

                #8
                What type of batteries are in the scooter? Lead Acid? AGM? Lithion? Gel?

                Solar could destroy your batteries if not done right.

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                • Sunking
                  Solar Fanatic
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 23301

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Wy_White_Wolf
                  What type of batteries are in the scooter? Lead Acid? AGM? Lithion? Gel?
                  I canno tanswer for the OP, but I know E-Bikes area all over the place but the most common is a 36 volt 10 to 20 AH LFP, and at $500 a pop is expensive.
                  MSEE, PE

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                  • daza
                    Junior Member
                    • Feb 2013
                    • 1

                    #10
                    Yeah I agree, that is expensive.

                    Mod note - Links not allowed.
                    Last edited by russ; 02-14-2013, 12:33 PM. Reason: removed link
                    [url]http://www.blueboxbatteries.co.uk/[/url]

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                    • PNjunction
                      Solar Fanatic
                      • Jul 2012
                      • 2179

                      #11
                      In this situation, I'd also be sure to visit the UK message board of WheelchairDriver . com for more chair-specific charging techniques.

                      The owner of the board is a paraplegic engineer (accident), and has built some mind-bogglingly cool chairs and charging systems for his personal use. The forum threads are chock full of good advice for specific batteries and charging systems depending on your type of driving - seriously. General purpose, racing, off-road chairs etc. The battery advice is exceptionally well detailed and more or less corresponds to what you'll see here, although with greater emphasis on the specific deep-discharge real-world application a chair is subject to.

                      I'd definitely look into it before investing in any solar.

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